Does any job have massice enganging system.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I get it, but again this is not making a strong case for you. How can we assume you care about playing a job correctly when you also don't put any effort into using proper grammar? Does that bore you too, so why even bother? If I took my SAM into the NM raids and don't get touched by anything avoidable while also pumping out max deeps, that would tell me and others that I probably should head into EX or Savage continue to put my skills to the test. If am dropping left and right whether it is because I lose focus, or I am just not that good, then that says I need to stay right where I am at.

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Its called being dsyelix lol and i try rlly hard to even be close, try to realize there are conditions that effect that kind of stuff before using it as a reason to be dismissive.

Also i guess focus is wrong with you. So here is the truth i dont care enough to play with looking at screen or with both hands on just about everything cuz its so simple it makes me want to fall asleep. Basicly have to hinfer myself to make it some what enjoyable

If the game is so boring that it's putting you to sleep, why are you still playing it? Not trying to be snide, I genuinely don't get it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

If the game is so boring that it's putting you to sleep, why are you still playing it? Not trying to be snide, I genuinely don't get it.

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I didnt say the game was i said the jobs were big differnce

To break it down story is godly..
Monsters and fights are overall great.
Custmization is amazing.
Rp side of it is god like.
Golden saucer is godly..
Music also godly
Side storys are godly as well

Almost everything is god like but the jobs themself are 2 simple

But jobs are designed like they think players are brain dead or something. It doesnt matter what higher content offers if the jobs themself can be played by a monkey perfectly.

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Originally Posted by AncientWillow

Its called being dsyelix lol and i try rlly hard to even be close, try to realize there are conditions that effect that kind of stuff before using it as a reason to be dismissive.

Also i guess focus is wrong with you. So here is the truth i dont care enough to play with looking at screen or with both hands on just about everything cuz its so simple it makes me want to fall asleep. Basicly have to hinfer myself to make it some what enjoyable

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Yeah... I recently watched a handicapped individual born without arms play the game with his feet. If you're so bored, and things are so easy then maybe try that.

Many of us play with some kind of constriction. However, it doesn't cause those players to stop caring. That usually has to do with depression more so than a physical limitation. Even in braindead content, what tends to suffer are things like upkeep because it's not as important to optimize. Players, for the most part still obey mechanics that will kill them.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Basically play any job with a high APM such as AST, SMN, or GNB. Another would be jobs that have you keep track of multiple resources. SAM as an example is considered a really straight forward job, but the skill ceiling with it is quite high. As the easier a job is to play, the easier it is to also screw it up. You have a DoT upkeep, a speed buff, a damage buff, three combo finishers, a job gauge you can easily screw up, burst phases every minute, and a self mitigation tool you should be using every time it's off of CD and you're about to take a hit.

Best of luck with whichever you choose or find.

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You know... that's actually a really insightful answer.
I was sitting over here trying to figure out a way to measure what jobs are more engaging and I think you hit the nail on the head with the "high APM" or "multiple resource" idea.

I really enjoy MCH a lot. Much more to it than 123. Wouldn’t say it’s hard but you often have things up and choices to make.

Really surprised I haven't seen more mention of NIN.

Nin has a lot to keep track of and is SIGNIFICANTLY more than 1 2 3. Very busy class, always prepping for the next step.

The real draw of FF is the story, well now it is. There use to be one other thing: ability choice and customization. Games with Jobs usually had way to combine jobs and/or to pick and chose abilities. The materia system in 7 and the Junction system in 8 allowed you to greatly customize what each character did. This game had some of that, but it's pretty much gone, with Blue Mage being the best example currently in the game. Now you are just given a set of actions designed around building up to a few awesome moves. Gameplay is pretty much try to build up to a big finisher while the movement mechanics are there stop you.

Razor thin balance wasn't an issue in any RPG, mmo or otherwise, until Blizzard took on the esports mentality and started designing encounters around throughput and turned pvp into sport. And everyone followed suit.

Black Mage. There's no way to dodge AoE, spam Fire IV, watch for mechanics, and keep up Enochian in your sleep. You have to keep your eyes on everything. In ky opinion, it's the most unforgiving rotation in the game.

Even DNC which is proc based ends up suffering from a 1-2-(maybe 3- maybe 4) rotation.

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Originally Posted by Nabril

In ky opinion, it's the most unforgiving rotation in the game.

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For all the wrong reasons. One mistake and the flow of the rotation goes out the window.