The FFXIV Cash Shop is greedy

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

Someone comparing WoW to XIV, drop the team of apologists.
Also, few weeks ago when someone asked if we can get new or some kind of rerun of old event, got answer that it's really difficult to do and devs don't have time for any new rewards, just a few days ago they dropped new costume to the cash shop. In near future mog will be comparable to the f2p mmos cash shop in terms of quantity of items you can buy there.

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The data for said items was added in in a previous patch, and like has been mentioned, the devs don't control the mogstation optional item shop, others at SE do.

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Originally Posted by TheRealQuah

Nice cherry picking. Why don't you try to compare it to other games too and see how it comes out? Whilst I agree it's a bit scummy to put old event items in mogstation to sell (they should offer all event items the next time the event runs), there are a lot of games that are fat worse. Look at Destiny 2, all DLC this year is limited and gets removed after 3 months, and armor drops are still from 3 years ago, whilst the cash shop seems to add new items almost weekly.

Also all of the unique mounts etc.. sold in mogstation are designed and implemented by a third party and not SqEx. If they weren't selling them for real money in the shop, then they wouldn't be commissioned in the first place.

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Comparing a P2P game to a F2P game isn't exactly comparing apples to apples. They have different business models, and of course a F2P is going to have more. Also, Destiny 2's approach sounds like utter garbage and should be called out for it.

And as an aside, reselling old seasonal gear is actually something I am 100% OK with in XIV's cash shop. They at least gave people a chance to obtain the item in game, and if you missed it, that's not their fault.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

My biggest beef with the Mog Station is that it doesn't offer much for those of us who play male characters. I don't have an issue spending money on optional items or services - but I noticed that the likes of GW2 and ESO do a much better job at offering outfits designed with male characters in mind. It's a bit odd that FFXIV is lagging behind on that front.

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That tends to be the unfortunate reality of Eastern-made MMOs (whether JP or KR). 'Waifu dress-up' sells a lot more than 'Husbando dress-up', and so either in-game glamours or cash shop outfits tend to lean heavily in favor of stuff for female characters, whether it be 'cute' or 'sexy' designs - or just stuff that flat out looks better on female models than males. Having recently swapped back to playing a male character as my main, I'm really feeling the bias nowadays compared to when I was maining female characters.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The data for said items was added in in a previous patch, and like has been mentioned, the devs don't control the mogstation optional item shop, others at SE do.

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No one's blaming the devs, those poor guys working with what they have for so long time, keeping this corpse of an older game alive. It was SE decision to put it in real money shop.

No, it's not greedy at all. It's called business.
No, WoW is no different as their mounts are more expensive, including one that you only got if you committed to stay subbed for a year.
No, we didnt need another thread about this.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

And as an aside, reselling old seasonal gear is actually something I am 100% OK with in XIV's cash shop. They at least gave people a chance to obtain the item in game, and if you missed it, that's not their fault.

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While I don't mean to be too much of a nag, I do dislike the fact that Seasonals can be bought form the Cash Shop. Part of what would be special and interesting about (seasonal) events is the fact that you can get items which will be unobtainable and exclusive whoever did the event at the time (or when it returns). The fact that these items simply become available in the Cash Shop takes a way a lot of the appeal (and immersion?) to me. It's no longer something you want for exclusivity, but rather just to save money.

In other games there are very often Cash Shop items offered for a limited time, because they know people like the exclusivity of having an item that is no longer available.

Lol, man people have nothing to do it seems with Covid-19.

So let's get a few things straight about this.

1.) People are "Mad" at the "Cash Shop" because they pay a monthly sub and can't get everything for free.
2.) Retainer's for more storage space cost $. (Understandable. Storage space should be free but having to pay $ should be towards unlocking the ventures feature. If not, 4 retainers should be free, not 2.)
3.) Everyone thinks they add more "Content" to the cash shop then they do the actual game. As it was stated multiple times, Dev's don't control the mogstation. A Separate team at SE does. Also, no.
4.) Old seasonal items being added. This is a given. If you weren't playing the game back in 2017, you're most likely not going to get it other then the mogstation. Every year they have different seasonal items for the events.

I'm probably missing some but i'm sure these are the main points. But ultimately, everything in the mogstation is optional. You don't need it. Just because you feel the urge to buy stuff on the mogstation that is completely cosmetic/optional but yet you don't want to pay for it doesn't give you the right to complain about it. If were gonna complain about something, why not the actual game/content itself instead of "Optional Items".

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Originally Posted by SamRF

I don't think you necessarily need to have WoW amount of subscribers to make a WoW quality game. I'm pretty sure WoW is making much less money right now compared to when it was in its prime (2008) yet it doesn't seem like the game is decreasing in quality.

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*Looks at Warlords of Draenor and Battle for Azeroth and the MILLIONS of subs they bled out on* Yeah, not a drop in quality at ALL. /s

BACK ON TOPIC. Should micro-transactions have become the norm? No. Have they though? Yes. As others have pointed out the flip side to cash shops is an increase of subs. The cost of a subscription MMO has not changed at all since at least 2004, however inflation has driven costs extremely high and so that difference has to come from somewhere. So micro-transactions are that band aid at the moment. Of course there are indeed things on the Mog Station that I wish the FF14 Dev team themselves had done so it would have been available in game, but I also accept and realize that many things on there just simply wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the Mog Station Dev team. I think my biggest beef with stuff on there are the dyes and the housing items. IMO things like that should likely not be sold for IRL currency. Well that and the fact that we have yet to get the DoH/DoL lvl 1 all class glams that the China Mog Station has. *makes grabby hands*

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

*Looks at Warlords of Draenor and Battle for Azeroth and the MILLIONS of subs they bled out on* Yeah, not a drop in quality at ALL. /s

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True, but that wasn't caused by lack of budget (I would think). And there was Legion between WoD and BfA, which many considered a good expansion from what I've gathered.

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Originally Posted by TheRealQuah

Also all of the unique mounts etc.. sold in mogstation are designed and implemented by a third party and not SqEx. If they weren't selling them for real money in the shop, then they wouldn't be commissioned in the first place.

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SE creates those mounts, the third parties pay SE to do it for them and they then make that money back selling them in their own cash shops.