Trying to understand player behavour with MB & MSQ dungeons

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Originally Posted by Kamatsu

I'm talking about the seller - it's a complete loss for them, as they are selling it for less than they'd make selling to an npc merchant, as well as paying tax on the sale so even less!

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Can only speak for me but if I don't need/want an item I just throw it out on the MB and yes I often do it below vendor price. To me gil is not something that matters all that much. I have ≈40milion gil and I haven't spent any (except on teleports) for almost a year now. I see it as a win-win situation. Yes I get less gil but on the other hand someone else might need that item and if that makes someone happy I'm perfectly fine with making a little less profit.Still better than deleting it if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

When you first post an item and you see the default vendor price the listings are probably higher. When you see the price has dropped and you pick a new price you might not reconfirm the vendor price and just drop it. It takes about 30 to 45 mins to go through all MB listings check current prices and check vendor price. The system is not very user friendly. Anyone who says it shouldn't take that long one only has a few listings or two isn't checking prices very well IE selling for below vendor price.

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The vendor price is listed directly on the item information though. You don't need to go back to check.

I think a large portion of badly-priced marketboard items are because people don't understand that the initial price is the sell-to-NPC price and not a recommended starting price. And then people try to undercut all the other people that put their items up at that not-actually-recommended price...

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Originally Posted by Moonlite

The sky gear that vendors for 1k can go below 500 gil. It is worthless to desynth it is worthless to wear and retainers bring a lot of it back.

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The Sky Rat gear is actually pretty good to pick up if you've just hit Lv60, especially if you don't have enough tomes or access to Idyllshire yet. It's cheap and it has the same stats as early Stormblood gear.

I've made a few glamours with it too. Mostly the gloves and boots.

Sky Pirate gear is even better for glamour, and far cheaper than the replica items if you want to use it for its designated class.

Dirt-cheap Sky Rat gear was fantastic for quickly leveling desynth skill.

I see people sell Materia, escpecially Demimateria way below vendor price everyday. Even if counting in market tax you can make a lot of easy profit by just buying it in bulk and selling it to the NPC right next to the market board. You can see at a glance how much an item is worth when selling it to the NPC so it's basically zero effort.
But just like visiting another server to save 500k on an item people generally don't bother with any sort of extra effort even if it is well worth the time spent. Same with people buying mats you can get at NPCs. Yak Milk, Linen Yarn/ Cloth etc. are famous examples for items that are generally sold for 5-10x the vendor price because people don't want to look for the NPC even if they need large amounts.

Laziness is a thing. :)

2. I tried to farm one of the DoL achievements, which involves gathering thousands of items. I had over 200 of 1 item not useful to me, so I put it up in bulk because it's /some/ profit without any risk of undercutting. No cost to me but time.

1) I skip CS in hopes I get that one group that also does it, generally I do not lose much of anything doing so.

2) Can only speak for myself but often on the weekends I put expensive and popular glam items for 1000gil just for shits and giggles. No real reason behind it.

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Originally Posted by Awha

I skip CS in hopes I get that one group that also does it, generally I do not lose much of anything doing so.

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You...you just openly admitted to using an exploit on the public forum.

Yikes.

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Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld

You...you just openly admitted to using an exploit on the public forum.

Yikes.

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Uh, if i remember correctly all you do is relog to skip the cutscene. Technically, that is not an "Exploit". Personally they should make two separate roulette for the 50 MSQ where it divides players who want to watch cutscenes as opposed to those who don't want to.

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Uh, if i remember correctly all you do is relog to skip the cutscene. Technically, that is not an "Exploit". Personally they should make two separate roulette for the 50 MSQ where it divides players who want to watch cutscenes as opposed to those who don't want to.

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You'd get sprouts waiting in even longer ques while the veterans/sprouts who don't want to watch cutscenes get shorter ques. Then the ONLY way to watch the cutscenes is to convince 7 other people to que with you or go back later in an unsync run on your own time to watch them all after you've gone through more of the MSQ.

I have seen the skipping cutscenes in MSQ reduces the time of the instance by 10 minutes.

As to the second point. People are just flat lazy, or they are doing a generous thing for the community.

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Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld

You...you just openly admitted to using an exploit on the public forum.

Yikes.

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It may be considered an exploit but it seems like a fairly harmless one in my opinion, and if SE wants to take action against my account because of it so be it, do not lose much either way.

In the end, I do not see myself giving myself an advantage over others, nor am I using it with malicious intent. Only thing I am doing is making use of a flaw within SE system.