All healers need to have a corresponding (maybe limited) job just like SMN/SCH.

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Originally Posted by MikkoAkure

Pretty sure Yoshi-P said that combining SMN and SCH was a mistake and they’re never doing it again.

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Indeed he did, and indeed they won't. The irony about it though, is this system would actually function well in the game today. It didn't previous to 4.0, when we still dealt with allocating stats and Cleric Stance swapping MND with INT. Now, you swap out your stone, and swap out your gear, and it's a done deal. All this really means though is that since it's not broken, they don't have to fix anything.

However, I do agree with his decision for the most part. It's an antiquated system that honestly is very XI-esque.

My first leveled characters was the SUM/SCH classes - and frankly I think having that as an option on a newbie is a BAD idea. I struggled keeping both classes geared all the way up the MSQ. Not to mention, becoming competent at either at a reasonable rate suffered as well.

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Originally Posted by Keddera_StormMoon

My first leveled characters was the SUM/SCH classes - and frankly I think having that as an option on a newbie is a BAD idea. I struggled keeping both classes geared all the way up the MSQ. Not to mention, becoming competent at either at a reasonable rate suffered as well.

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You decided to keep both jobs geared and learn both jobs simultaneously, when you can do only one of them instead, and struggled from it. That's entirely your doing, it's not the class design's fault.

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

You decided to keep both jobs geared and learn both jobs simultaneously, when you can do only one of them instead, and struggled from it. That's entirely your doing, it's not the class design's fault.

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troll much?

Didn't YoshiP say the only reason SMN and SCH have shared exp is related to an 'issue' with the coding?
the thing isnt intended to be happening to begin with.

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Originally Posted by deadman1204

troll much?

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Lol...what?

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

It's not awkward leveling 2 jobs at the same time as long as you're not trying to speed run to level cap. I do it with one of my characters. Instanced content I use WHM (including the solo duties because most of them have greatly reduced DPS requirements for the healer roles) and RDM for everything else. In SB both jobs hit 70 within 5 minutes of each other. This expansion they hit 80 same day a few hours apart. Roulettes, side quests, FATEs and hunt bills all added additional XP to what I was getting from MSQ.

There's no need for 2 for 1 jobs when you can already have multiple jobs at the same time.

Make sure you're using your chocobo companion in the non-instanced content. Its DPS contribution is noticeable once you get it to about rank 8 and only gets better as it continues to gain ranks.

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Have recently started Shadowbringers and honestly I think I agree now. I think I even prefer going with 2 jobs cause I feel like you're leveling too fast. I prefer having to grind a little before reaching required level for MSQ, and currently I'm overleveling if I do all sidequests, not leaving room for doing some fates and dungeons for leveling because I don't want to overlevel too much so my level matches the area. Going with 2 jobs might be the way to go actually.

Ooooorrrr, I know this is completely mindblowing and will probably require an extraordinary amount of ressources but bear with me: They could make healer DPS more engaging... Omg I said it

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Originally Posted by SamRF

Healers arguably need more complex dps rotation in general, but it will likely never be as engaging as tanks and dps, so they are destined to have a lesser experience in solo content.

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When I quest as a dps nothing stays alive long enough for me to feel like the act of dpsing is engaging.

Do I find it more engaging than questing as a healer? Not really because in both cases I can just auto pilot in combat. For me it's the story and the solo duties that make questing engaging. Not the combat in normal solo quests when I have to kill 5 things or whatever.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

When I quest as a dps nothing stays alive long enough for me to feel like the act of dpsing is engaging.

Do I find it more engaging than questing as a healer? Not really because in both cases I can just auto pilot in combat. For me it's the story and the solo duties that make questing engaging. Not the combat in normal solo quests when I have to kill 5 things or whatever.

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The issue with healer is that some stuff takes quite a while to kill and it's a lot of time spent spamming one button. Especially some solos are just absolutely horrid.