Discouraged by Que timers

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Originally Posted by Dubont

Get ready for it. Times are going to be, by nature, longer because there are: 4 tanks, 3 healers and 10 DPS. Meaning, there are going to be more DPS in queue than tanks and healers. Also, more people like to play DPS because, outside of raids/savage/Xtreme, it's a pretty brainless position while running leves. You hit the thing until it dies then move on. There are very few mechanics to actually pay attention to so most people can level while watching Netflix or eating.

Lastly, you were doing MSQ...those times are ALWAYS long. Each run takes around an hour to complete and once they are done, there is no reason to run it again until the next day, unlike dungeons.

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It's been happening on pretty much anything I try to run, aside from Alliance Raid. Not just MSQ. That's just what I happened to try last night.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I appreciated you gave an actual reply. I was just shaking my head that the first two responses both commented on my spelling.

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Actually, I always just enjoy it when people spell it as "que" since that is Spanish for "what".

So, I was not commenting on your spelling so much as chuckling at "Discouraged by 'what' timers"

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Originally Posted by Unholychinchilla

A five letter word with four silent letters is probably one of my favourite examples of how daft the English language can be.

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Oh it's not the silent letters that make it daft. It's the people that speak it. As a language that is spoken worldwide, the only other language I can think of that is filled to the brim with different colloquialisms, slang, unofficial synonyms, and exceptions is Spanish. But it's also the only other language I know how to speak and write.

That being said, I would really hate to have to learn how to speak English. It must be a nightmare trying to utilize what you learn with just a normal person who talks like the afore mentioned.

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Originally Posted by Malmstrom

Actually, I always just enjoy it when people spell it as "que" since that is Spanish for "what".

So, I was not commenting on your spelling so much as chuckling at "Discouraged by 'what' timers"

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Sorry for the misunderstanding :)

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Oh it's not the silent letters that make it daft. It's the people that speak it. As a language that is spoken worldwide, the only other language I can think of that is filled to the brim with different colloquialisms, slang, unofficial synonyms, and exceptions is Spanish. But it's also the only other language I know how to speak and write.

That being said, I would really hate to have to learn how to speak English. It must be a nightmare trying to utilize what you learn with just a normal person who talks like the afore mentioned.

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English is really three languages in a trenchcoat pretending to be an adult.

Nothing can be done about it OP. Just have to suffer the dos Queue like everyone else.

Maybe make it so can use trusts in all pve dutie instances. I get really discourage when says I'm list number 1 for 22 minutes and queue still never pops.

It’s honestly not surprising that DPS have longer queues than tanks or healers if you sit down and really think about it.

Compare the number of available tank/healer jobs to the number of available DPS jobs—there are far more of the latter than the former. And then consider how DPS jobs are relatively “free of responsibility” in a lot of the content in this game—they aren’t responsible for “guiding” or “leading” a party (tank) or keeping people alive (healers); they just hit the things and call it a day. Think about both of those things, and you have your answer as to why their queues are so much longer than tanks or healers. More people are simply more attracted to them.

There’s not much you can do about mitigating queues if you are solo-queueing for roulettes or just running dungeons. Hence why people have suggested trying to find tank or healer friends that you can do stuff with a couple nights a week. I leveled some of my DPS jobs when I first started by partying with friends going on a tank or a healer class to make the wait not as long. And we had lots of fun playing together. I have a friend that we alternate playing tanks/healers to give the other faster queues on a DPS (even for things like Expert Roulette).

You also have options outside of dungeons, as others have mentioned: PotD for levels 1~60 and HoH for levels 61~70. Though, I am sympathetic to how boring mindlessly grinding both of them can be; they do typically have faster queues for the “grinding” floors. There are also beast tribes and the good ol’ FATE grinding. I would personally recommend doing a bit of FATE grinding with your chocobo while you were waiting for a queue—that way you are still “playing the game”, and you can add in some EXP. I don’t have issues with just sitting back and doing other stuff while I’m waiting on a queue, but if you want to actively “be playing the game”, doing extra content like beast tribes and FATEs during your wait is the best way to achieve that goal.

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Originally Posted by MrKusakabe

Also, forget about those ridiculous "juzz make friendz wizz healerz and tankz and you'd be fineeeheheh". As if this is done so easily and they are not your slaves then; they also have something to do, are not online, not both online, not wanting to go with the other person, rather with friends or FC mates etc. etc. Some people here are really Captains of the Obvious-wannabes without doing the reality check first...[I]"You are unemployed? Make friends with a managers and business owners and apply for a job then derp herp".

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I mean, it is legitimate advice to make friends with other players and queue up to do stuff together. I don’t know why you have to be so upset over it.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Last night, Friday night after work - so prime time, I tried to do MSQ Roulette. It said 20 minutes. Okay whatever. This is already a huge time sink but I decided to just play a mobile game on my iPad while I wait. Well 20 minutes comes and I'm still 19th in line. 30 minutes come and I'm 11th. I log out.

I've had similar experiences trying to que for whatever the highest dungeon is (for me, Doma Castle right now). I know this isn't popular content but I would hope there are 3 other people in the grand scheme of the game that might que for this in less than a half hour.

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As a healer I have had to wait over 20 minutes sometimes when I queue for a specific instance. You're being very optimistic to expect under a half hour as a dps.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Levelling roulette is okay but also can take up to 20 minutes.

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That's normal for a dps.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I've been trying to level my Dragoon (presently 68) and boy is it a chore. Early on I would work on my hunting log to distract me while I wait, but now I don't have that and there isn't much content I'm interested in while waiting. I don't enjoy crafting, and there is only so much I can do in my apartment.

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There is way more you can do than just the hunting log or crafting. Beast tribe dailies, fates, clan hunts, gathering, treasure maps, gold saucer games, make new glams in the glamour dresser, bard performance, duels at the Wolves' Den...and that's just the things you can do in game. This doesn't include other typical things like youtube, netflix, browsing reddit, doing chores, or if you're like me; turn on the switch and play pokémon.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

It's really easy to get discouraged when half my free gaming time, or more, is taken up by waiting.

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So you left the queue after a half hour. Am I to understand from this that you get to play for only about an hour a day? Everyone is free to make their own choices, but in my opinion mmorpgs are not a good choice to play if you have such little time to game. Forget about doing alliance raids. If you get any of the recent ones completion time can often take more than 40 minutes, and that's without taking queue times into account. If your group isn't the best you could be in the instance for an hour.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

I know other people posted in the past that they do housework, watch Netflix, etc. while waiting but this is a bit ridiculous.

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It's ridiculous to get some chores or homework done instead of sit around doing nothing but watch a timer in a game? Okay...

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Originally Posted by Penthea

It's ridiculous to get some chores or homework done instead of sit around doing nothing but watch a timer in a game? Okay...

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It's fine to get things done instead of watch a timer - what's ridiculous to me is the need to do this. When I log into a game I want to play, not do chores while listening for a random pop-up or watch Netflix that I will have to pause at a random time. I like to concentrate on what I am choosing to do.

I guess the other in-game activity suggestions are helpful to some - I find a lot of that boring and not what I want to be doing. I enjoy FFXIV for the main story, dungeons/trials/raids. I play around with glamours and housing but that only provides so much content and at some point you are happy with your glamor and house for the time being.

FATES are dull, but I guess would help level - except that in Stormblood where I am no one is doing them. They are already tedious in a group let alone soloing them.

It sounds like this is just how things are - so I unsubscribed for now. It's fine that they created side activities that just don't appeal to me. I'm happy if other people enjoy doing those things. Maybe I'll come back for more story and when things are more active again in case that helps.