SHB story is my least favorite

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Originally Posted by FaerieAura

Isn't it obvious? There's only one we've seen completely defy the laws of physics on a regular basis, whose wealth and power are unexplained and make no sense and only can be explained by creation magicks.

We're coming for you, Manderville.

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Godbert is the unsundered 14th. /sarcasm

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Originally Posted by FaerieAura

Personally? I think you're looking at this a bit too small. The Shadowbringers story informs all of the content we've had up until now in so many ways, just because it offers us an entirely new perspective. Let's take, for instance, the idea of 'beast tribes'. On the Source, we've been taught that Beast Tribes are typically dangerous, somewhat savage groups of intelligent creatures with the capacity to speak and understand language, but whose ways are so fundamentally different and opposed to those of the 'spoken races' that we simply cannot get along with them, and so conflict between us is inevitable. Obviously, there are the friendlier beast tribes, but most primals come from the conflicts that have been set between the 'beasts' and the 'spoken'. Now, we know that the Ascians have been meddling in these conflicts for a good long while, and that they have been responsible for teaching 'beast tribes' the methods of summoning magicks, but overall the conflict has been portrayed as 'civilization' vs. 'savages' who are summoning monsters that could wipe out the entire world.

We get to the First, a world where primals simply haven't been a factor, and what do we find? The Mord, the First's Kobolds, have a trading hub where they live alongside Humes and other races and are treated as equals. Zun, the Amal'jaa of the First, live and work in the Crystarium and are valued for their knowledge of Amaro taming. The Ondo, Sahagin of the First, trade with Eulmore and hunt and fish freely in the oceans. They are not summoning Primals, coming into conflict with the 'spoken', or even truly distinguished from the other races. They simply exist. They're part of society. They're not separated, they're not treated as lesser, they're not at war, hell, if the game was based on the First, there wouldn't really be a reason for them not to be playable characters. This helps us to see that the 'war on primals' that we've been fighting on the Source? All of it has been an Ascian machination to cause chaos and conflict, nothing more than a shell game to make us hate each other rather than work together to build a brighter future. They don't want us to. They want us to hate. They want us to fight.

The first is a refutation of the idea that we have to be at war with the 'beast tribes' or that that is even a meaningful category at all. That's just one example I can think of; those are the types of things that I think it gives us. It's a useful mirror to Eorzea and the Source. Not to mention all of the metaphysical knowledge we now have, and knowledge of our enemies' motivations. I can now go back to the Source with a true understanding of why I am fighting, rather than simply reacting to what the Ascians' latest plots are.

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To add to this, Dwarves/Lalafells are considered a beast tribe on the First. NPCs in Kholusia(I wanna say Amity, but maybe it was Wright?) refer to them as such. So the divide between Beast Tribe and Spoken really is just a matter of social convention and language barriers.

Imo Shadowbringers has one of the best story ever made in any Final Fantasy game, Emet Selch is my favorite villain in any Final Fantasy game. Shadowbringers > Heavensward > Stormblood > A Realm Reborn. My only complain is that i have to wait until 5.1 for more

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Originally Posted by QT_Melon

I don't need to remember, as I am well aware and had discussions about it prior.

The fact that she says its the truth of the world, is bothersome.

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She can say what she likes. Doesn't make it the whole truth. The only people who knows what happened are brainwashed into worshipping her opposite.

Heck, we only get a clearer picture of what happened from a Shade who gained sapience by accident. So I say just take what she says with a pinch of salt.

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Originally Posted by Razard

She can say what she likes. Doesn't make it the whole truth. The only people who knows what happened are brainwashed into worshipping her opposite.

Heck, we only get a clearer picture of what happened from a Shade who gained sapience by accident. So I say just take what she says with a pinch of salt.

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Okay, the whole point of this was to answer a question as to what I found conflicting, I answered it. I found the writing and events rather conflicting and ...Slaaahpeh. I mean at least the MSQ with Lahabrea the events make sense after all the revelations from this patch. That said, we STILL aren't done with this Xpac so there may be a reason that's stated instead of guessed about why events were told that way. So no, I don't think we should have taken things with a grain of salt, I think we should be looking for more o/~ Answers o/~

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Originally Posted by DenzelVilliers

Imo Shadowbringers has one of the best story ever made in any Final Fantasy game, Emet Selch is my favorite villain in any Final Fantasy game. Shadowbringers > Heavensward > Stormblood > A Realm Reborn. My only complain is that i have to wait until 5.1 for more

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this!
I appreciated getting Eden as story 1 month through considering its tied to the MSQ but i need the 5.1 stuff!
I replayed the story once on main and once on alt and i still cant get enough of it.
Here hoping Zenos is worth liking tho,so far hes just the cliche overpowered anime villain~ D:

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Originally Posted by VictorTheed

Well it's better then arr story, but reason why it's my least favorite is not cause it was written bad because it was written very good, reason is I didn't care about the plot as much as I did hw and sb and yes it's a personal opinion thread but it is what it is.

I personally enjoy the dravainians vs ishgardians aspect to hw, mostly because I am a religious man irl and I love dragons so both together was great and doma/ala mhigo we been hearing about them and interacting with people from there since 1.0 and 2.0, most people hated the split story but I liked it, just wish ala mhigo got a little more attention.

I wished we'd got to explore more of the source before heading to a diff shard, I still wanna see shrlayan lands, the new world and mericydia and most of all I wanna see my fav story arch get an expansion to it, the garlean empire, I liked norvrandt but I wished it would have waited till we explored more of the source 1st.

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For what it's worth, I'm REALLY sure this part of the story needed to be told so that we get even more in-depth with things on the Source. So many links that have been scattered over world joining again because of the knowledge we have now and will have coming from The First, where history is better preserved then on the Source (because of Calamities)