SHB story is my least favorite

[VictorTheed]

Well it's better then arr story, but reason why it's my least favorite is not cause it was written bad because it was written very good, reason is I didn't care about the plot as much as I did hw and sb and yes it's a personal opinion thread but it is what it is.

I personally enjoy the dravainians vs ishgardians aspect to hw, mostly because I am a religious man irl and I love dragons so both together was great and doma/ala mhigo we been hearing about them and interacting with people from there since 1.0 and 2.0, most people hated the split story but I liked it, just wish ala mhigo got a little more attention.

I wished we'd got to explore more of the source before heading to a diff shard, I still wanna see shrlayan lands, the new world and mericydia and most of all I wanna see my fav story arch get an expansion to it, the garlean empire, I liked norvrandt but I wished it would have waited till we explored more of the source 1st.

[EdwinLi]

I doubt we would have gotten a wait until we explore all of the Source first plot anyways.

The story seem to reaching the finale to end the Zodiark vs Hydaelyn Arc and to conclude this we first need to know the origins of this war which did lead to SHB story to be more focus about how this entire war started so we can finally reach the ending.

I expect the Garlean Empire to be the stage where we reach that Finale and after that then we go to places beyond in a Season 2 storyline since with the threat of Garlean EMpire and Zodiark gone, we can finally return to a storyline that starts us as normal Adventurers once again to explore areas of the Source that is now free from Garlean Empire or have never been explored before because the war against the garlean empire and Zodiark prevented the Adventurer Guild to fund a large scale expedition into the Unknown regions of the Source.

[FaerieAura]

Personally? I think you're looking at this a bit too small. The Shadowbringers story informs all of the content we've had up until now in so many ways, just because it offers us an entirely new perspective. Let's take, for instance, the idea of 'beast tribes'. On the Source, we've been taught that Beast Tribes are typically dangerous, somewhat savage groups of intelligent creatures with the capacity to speak and understand language, but whose ways are so fundamentally different and opposed to those of the 'spoken races' that we simply cannot get along with them, and so conflict between us is inevitable. Obviously, there are the friendlier beast tribes, but most primals come from the conflicts that have been set between the 'beasts' and the 'spoken'. Now, we know that the Ascians have been meddling in these conflicts for a good long while, and that they have been responsible for teaching 'beast tribes' the methods of summoning magicks, but overall the conflict has been portrayed as 'civilization' vs. 'savages' who are summoning monsters that could wipe out the entire world.

We get to the First, a world where primals simply haven't been a factor, and what do we find? The Mord, the First's Kobolds, have a trading hub where they live alongside Humes and other races and are treated as equals. Zun, the Amal'jaa of the First, live and work in the Crystarium and are valued for their knowledge of Amaro taming. The Ondo, Sahagin of the First, trade with Eulmore and hunt and fish freely in the oceans. They are not summoning Primals, coming into conflict with the 'spoken', or even truly distinguished from the other races. They simply exist. They're part of society. They're not separated, they're not treated as lesser, they're not at war, hell, if the game was based on the First, there wouldn't really be a reason for them not to be playable characters. This helps us to see that the 'war on primals' that we've been fighting on the Source? All of it has been an Ascian machination to cause chaos and conflict, nothing more than a shell game to make us hate each other rather than work together to build a brighter future. They don't want us to. They want us to hate. They want us to fight.

The first is a refutation of the idea that we have to be at war with the 'beast tribes' or that that is even a meaningful category at all. That's just one example I can think of; those are the types of things that I think it gives us. It's a useful mirror to Eorzea and the Source. Not to mention all of the metaphysical knowledge we now have, and knowledge of our enemies' motivations. I can now go back to the Source with a true understanding of why I am fighting, rather than simply reacting to what the Ascians' latest plots are.

[Frizze]

The first is a refutation of the idea that we have to be at war with the 'beast tribes' or that that is even a meaningful category at all.

This is certainly the way most people seem to be reading the relationship between "beast" and "spoken" as its played out on the first. My take? Once you remove the lalas from society, everyone else gets along just fine. Those soulless little monsters clearly cause conflict on about an equal level with the ascians.

[FaerieAura]

This is certainly the way most people seem to be reading the relationship between "beast" and "spoken" as its played out on the first. My take? Once you remove the lalas from society, everyone else gets along just fine. Those soulless little monsters clearly cause conflict on about an equal level with the ascians.

Hey, now, no need to drag the Plainsfolk into this. They're mostly alright.

[Annana]

On the Source, we've been taught that Beast Tribes are typically dangerous, somewhat savage groups of intelligent creatures with the capacity to speak and understand language, but whose ways are so fundamentally different and opposed to those of the 'spoken races' that we simply cannot get along with them, and so conflict between us is inevitable.

Worth noting that this is a narrative created and enforced by the Syndicate of Ul'dah because they wanted an excuse to seize the goods that the "beastmen" had.

[Ilenya]

Worth noting that this is a narrative created and enforced by the Syndicate of Ul'dah because they wanted an excuse to seize the goods that the "beastmen" had.

So which one of the Syndicate members is now a secret Ascian?

[FaerieAura]

So which one of the Syndicate members is now a secret Ascian?

Isn't it obvious? There's only one we've seen completely defy the laws of physics on a regular basis, whose wealth and power are unexplained and make no sense and only can be explained by creation magicks.

We're coming for you, Manderville.

[Ilenya]

Isn't it obvious? There's only one we've seen completely defy the laws of physics on a regular basis, whose wealth and power are unexplained and make no sense and only can be explained by creation magicks.

We're coming for you, Manderville.

Godbert is the unsundered 14th. /sarcasm

[Edax]

I liked it.

Care to elaborate?