You know it's patch day when...

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Originally Posted by LilySkye

small indie company btw

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Do not blame SE, blame the losers doing ddos.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

And since Lizard, WoW's servers have never been brought down like that again. Because Activi$ion implemented numerous layers of protection against DDOS. It's not laughable to say other MMOs have better defense when it's plainly obvious they do.

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Well, people have to understand.. the game server itself uses an ISP like we all do. It's not necessarily something companies directly can handle, it's something those ISPs need to invest in protection for as well. You hit that hub that brings traffic to the game server? You bring down the game because people can't connect to the server and SE could see everything on their end as normal. It often ends up in playing telephone tag while servers/networks are on fire LOL

I really think DDoSing is a weaksauce thing.

I also think it's hilarious that people in this game are convinced that it's blizzard actively trying to sabotage the game which is absolutely ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by FengZhou

I really think DDoSing is a weaksauce thing.

I also think it's hilarious that people in this game are convinced that it's blizzard actively trying to sabotage the game which is absolutely ridiculous.

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Agreed that it's lame to DDoS.

As for Blizzard... Five years ago I would have scoffed at the idea that they would do something like this. With their reputation lately, though, I doubt they are, but I can't completely dismiss it being a possibility.

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Originally Posted by CazzT

Agreed that it's lame to DDoS.

As for Blizzard... Five years ago I would have scoffed at the idea that they would do something like this. With their reputation lately, though, I doubt they are, but I can't completely dismiss it being a possibility.

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Blizzard has become such a boogeyman on these forums that people actually think they are actively DDoSing SE.

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

Do not blame SE, blame the losers doing ddos.

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Their both to blame.
SE should be taking steps to prevent this kind of thing from happening so much. This has been the what, 4-5th DDoS attack since ShB?

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Originally Posted by Cylla

Their both to blame.
SE should be taking steps to prevent this kind of thing from happening so much. This has been the what, 4-5th DDoS attack since ShB?

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True.
Players like: "You ruin my main job..." *Rage sob* "TIME MAKE DDOS ON FFXIV FOR REVENGE"

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Originally Posted by Cylla

Their both to blame.
SE should be taking steps to prevent this kind of thing from happening so much. This has been the what, 4-5th DDoS attack since ShB?

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I'm assuming you have suggestions on what these "steps to prevent this" are? If not, please refrain from speaking like it's a super easy task to prevent DDoS, because it's not. As soon as you get 1 regulated, 6 more can come down the pipeline from new sources. In theory, anyone dedicated enough can keep a service down with DDoS indefinitely.

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Originally Posted by Sythalin

I'm assuming you have suggestions on what these "steps to prevent this" are? If not, please refrain from speaking like it's a super easy task to prevent DDoS, because it's not. As soon as you get 1 regulated, 6 more can come down the pipeline from new sources. In theory, anyone dedicated enough can keep a service down with DDoS indefinitely.

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Where in my post did I say or in-apply that it would be super easy? Taking steps normally means just that, taking steps each time to build a defense. But whatever, keep on putting words where they weren't applied.
If you wanna defend SE and it 4 to 5 DDoS in a month span, knock yourself out. To each their own. Personally, if companies like Blizzard rarely get DDoS attacked (and they deserve it right now with BFA), then there no excuse for SE other then we can keep hiding behind the excuse that it an small indie company.

Don't we figure that SE uses Cloudflair anti-DDOS service, or something like it? If not, they should, right? I wonder if there is a way to test if they do use Cloudflair or something by looking at the routing chain of IPs or something? Does Tracert tell us something?

Ok. A tracert to a lobby server address shows SE uses NTT.NET network services, and checking the NTT website shows that NTT.NET provides DDOS protection as a service. So I assume that NTT is trying as hard as they can to stop these DDOS attacks.

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Originally Posted by Cylla

Where in my post did I say or in-apply that it would be super easy? Taking steps normally means just that, taking steps each time to build a defense. But whatever, keep on putting words where they weren't applied.
If you wanna defend SE and it 4 to 5 DDoS in a month span, knock yourself out. To each their own. Personally, if companies like Blizzard rarely get DDoS attacked (and they deserve it right now with BFA), then there no excuse for SE other then we can keep hiding behind the excuse that it an small indie company.

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I think alot of it is almost everything is not secure .