What's the reason (or reasons) new jobs aren't added to the initial roster?

I have a sinking suspicion its not because it can be level 1... but that the Character Creator and Class Choice system is not very... expandable. Like well before ARR was a thing, they decided that each city state had a set of classes. What if when they created that, they didn't ensure any room could be made through it to add others. So they when with the unlock thing instead?

I so would have loved rogue at chara creation. Though lvl 10 (15 if you start in another city state) isn't hard to reach.

Sorry this doesn't help the thread at all but didn't know where else to ask. I recently started playing game maybe 2 weeks ago tops and just realized I've been getting 2xp the entire time. Does anyone know why this is the case and how long it lasts?

quality of life, really.

and to answer your question jardani you might notice a buff in the upper corner of your screen that says "Road to 60". if you made your character on a "Preferred World", they will have the Road to 60 buff which will greatly speed up the rate of which you acquire xp and level up, until you hit 60. after you hit 60, that class will not receive the road to 60 buff but all other jobs under 60 will.

No because those jobs don't have any practical main hand weapons below their initial level.

New player perspective or veteran perspective is irrelevant since that doesn't change the effort it would take on the dev team for something so minor. Sure they could just no do quests until their initial level, but that doesn't change the fact the have to model weapons and animations for said weapons at those really low levels.

The idea you're proposing is nice and all but from a development standpoint its just utterly pointless.

I suppose for new players it is not as good that they can't be selected on character creation. But for people at current max level it's much better that they start the expansion classes at a higher level so they can use them in the expansion more readily.

Though I'm surprised they haven't added Rogue to the character creation.

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Originally Posted by Hazama999

I'm not sure I made myself clear.

In this hypothetical scenario, someone starting fresh (as in, from level 1), would have the option to select from old or new jobs as part of the initial roster.
People already at endgame could simply unlock the job at its original level requirement (30 for HW jobs, 50 for SB jobs, etc...)

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The answer to that is it's a lot more work for the devs and it's easier to just create shortcuts for those at the required level (maybe even less for say DNC and GNB since those will be starting at Lv60 but only require Lv50 MSQ done).

It would also involve the devs to create weapons for them all the way from 1 to 59 for DNC/GNB, 1 to 49 for RDM/SAM and 1 to 29 for AST/MCH/DRK. It's just a lot of work that can easily be cut out by just asking you to level one job to Lv50 (or more for AST/MCH/DRK since they require MSQ as well as Lv30).

They could make 1-49/1-59/1-69 not require job quests and make it work like PotD where you get your skills without doing job quests, but it still requires them to do work for every other level via the creation of weapons, etc. That's not including any lore implications and anything else that doesn't deal with gameplay proper.

That makes perfect sense and is probably the case for me but where would i see if i have that buff or not? I'm on ps4 i dont know if that changes where i would see it or anything.

As someone up there mentioned, it's entirely possible that the class choice system is not as expandable as one would like... which is a shame really... lol.

As for the lack of weapons, they could just re-use models or recolor existing ones. I feel like they could work towards coming up with a cost-effective solution to this. Giving more options to people starting off is nothing to scoff at.

To be honest, it has nothing to do with coding. Many of you have got to get off that tangent of thinking anytime something isn't being done, its because of coding issues. There USED to be a limitation in RAM for PS3 back in 1.0 and early 2.0, but since PS3 support was dropped, that is no longer a concern.

The reason new classes don't start at 1 has to do with players simply not wishing to replay through starting areas devoid of quests since they've already exhausted them on leveling other classes. That and it limits item bloat in areas of the game that are not very current. And like others have stated, it limits the number of job quests they need to create.

For those of you wishing for a level 1 experience on new classes, Palace of the Dead features it well.

Some of the jobs that don't have a class to start on also weren't designed to work much if at all at anything lower than what they start at. Then there is the whole jobs aren't classes bit. Along with the whole would have to have ad in and change story quests, lore changed, gear added and not have three of them locked behind msq progression.