Teleportation in Shadow Bringer - Obvious SPOILER

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Originally Posted by Raiya

My guess is that we simply just control a clone of our character on the first via the echo while our actual body sleeps on the source or something like that. If allagan cloning tech originated from the crystal tower I can see where this is going fairly quickly...

(as for retainers etc there's copout etc for all that).

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Yoshi P. strongly implied that the WoL is going to physically travel there by using some convenient plot device (Likely that beacon the enigmatic figure told us to locate) to amplify their Echo so they can pass through walls between the Source and the First (Which is basically what the Ascians do).

It's more likely that the Scions that have had to resort to such measures to function at the First due to their lack of Echo forcing their physical bodies to be left behind in order to travel there.

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Originally Posted by Rosa_Frandlia

Out of curiosity, how do they explain the msq then in their RP? Not being an adventurer, how do they explain being level 70 in combat classes? To me that makes no sense unless they are still level 1.

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Adventurer > odd jobs > level up

But then again, the whole "leveling up" is gameplay versus lore.

In the histories I currently have for my alts, everyone has some sort of combat experience. One's current incarnation is a Garlean Conscript Defector (like the guy from the Wine quests in La Noscea, just not crazy), and has been an ally of the Alliance since the Grand Companies were reformed. His record includes parts of the expeditions to Eureka.

The very nature of the game means you need to separate the situation your character is in, versus what you can do in game.

A single player game can usually get away with sending you somewhere and then literally trapping you there for story purposes.

An MMO....usually can't, but the storyline/main quest is only part of the game. TBH I find it's really not too much of an issue, as like other have said, we already have stuff like dungeons or quests we repeat and ignore them as being outside the story.

It'll be a similar situation in the xpac, where storyline wise we may be on the first and too busy to even think of returning to the source...but realistically the player can return and do a while bunch of non story stuff like crafting or pvp before they resume the MSQ.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

As others have said, it's pretty much inconceivable that we will become unable to return to the Source at will - even for just a short space of time. The only question is how much time they'll bother to spend explaining how it's possible. Personally, I consider it very likely, once we get to the First, there will be a cutscene that explains that the Crystal Tower has been established as a conduit to allow easy transport between the Source and the First - all before we're able to take even one step onto the First Shard while under our own control.

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I expect there to be at least some sort of handwave, even if it turns out to be just barely on this side of possible, much less plausible. As in, I would be very disappointed if there was no attempt whatsoever to explain it, and just left it as a complete separation of gameplay and story.

Even the ability for us to teleport back to Eorzea before the Sirensong Sea dungeon, when we were supposed to be on the one single ship that could bring us to Othard on short notice, was explained as us just being a teleporting troll and the Kraken's Arms crew going "how the seven hells did you even" and "we have to put you on a fast boat back".

So even if we were allegedly stuck on the First due to plot reasons, I can imagine teleporting back to Limsa or something and some scholar NPC going "technically this should not be possible, but you are the Warrior of Light, and there might be some aetherial shenanigans, so if you use this very rare and experimental device you can get back to the First where you are supposed to be."

I mean "Throw Wide The Gates" is one of the few ingame things we know about what we're doing this xpac.

If we are indeed "throwing wide the gates" between the Source and the First then i don't think teleportation would be that big of an issue. Doesn't sound like we're making an one-way trip in any fashion.

But yeah Gameplay and Story Segregation is your biggest friend in these times. MMOs are kinda limited in what they can lock you out of so stuff that shouldn't be possible is.

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Originally Posted by Neophyte

Seems like some people already forgot how it was done after our character got 'captured' by the Amal'ja...

a.k.a. 'you're free to teleport whenever you want out of your prison; also you can queue for Ifrit now!'

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There is an NPC in that cave, when you speak to him he says he has found a way to sneak in and out, and that someone should go and get help.

It's sometimes a bit out of the way, it's sometimes stretching plausibility, but they do go out of their way to make sure gameplay & lore are as compatible as possible.

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They definitely have some plot device planned for easy back and forth travel, Yoshi-P in one of the interviews was all like "hmm, what about retainers on the first? ;) "

I once got off the ship during that first voyage to Kugane and the NPC in Limsa was like "HOW DID YOU GET HERE?! OH NO WE WILL SHIP YOU BACK ASAP ON OUR FASTEST SHUTTLE!!"

Pretty funny but also another example of how we're never actually trapped in any areas.

Itll probably be like how Umbra is in FF15 where you can go back in time (in this case back to our world" via teleport. Just a game mechanic

My biggest concern in that regard is the class quests. Will they be in our world with the people we know or will they be on the First?

I think there will be a lore explanation. Probably linking aetherytes via the crystal tower. There's usually some sort of reason for things like this.

In the inter-dimensional rift during the Omega quests you actually can't teleport normally and have to leave through normal means. It's possible they'll ignore it and make it a game mechanic but I'd wager there will be some sort of quick explanation for it.

I'm hoping that we go there ourselves at first but then open a gate between the crystal towers allowing other characters in. This would give more freedom for job/class quests to use the new zones and still have some familiar npcs around, as well as make it easier for RPers who don't RP having the Echo to make the trip.

Will CT turn out to be one huge aetheryte?