Please remove random purchase timer!

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Originally Posted by MaybeOliverB

Much smaller market? You have your first time house owners fight in the goblet to acquire their first plot and the they end up paying an other player to get out of that hell hole all the time. Once again, nothing's changed for sellers. And as I said above, FC house trading as been a thing since 2.2...

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So first you claim first time buyers are paying other buyers to go away, and then you claim nothing's changed for sellers. You've sunk your own argument.

And that's assuming I believe you about people paying others to leave, which I don't particularly.

The timer system killed off a lot of house selling, as you can no longer effectively sell to first time buyers. Ideally housing would be unlimited, but it's not, so simply deleting measures that discourage house flipping isn't a good idea.

Yeah. You can't sell to first time buyers, unless the guyer is gullable or willing to take a gamble I suppose.

You can still sell for transfers. I have a small plot so in theory I could pay someone to abandon a medium plot and move up. Or I could pay someone in a Shirogane plot to abandon and move out of the Goblet. (Though it works out well for me because the Goblet is my favorite housing area anyway.)

Also, free companies. Someone can still sell a free company with a plot to another person, first time housing or not.

So while you can't reliably sell plots to first time buyers anymore, cutting down on the customer pool on realms without available plots, house selling isn't gone enitrely.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

So first you claim first time buyers are paying other buyers to go away, and then you claim nothing's changed for sellers. You've sunk your own argument.

And that's assuming I believe you about people paying others to leave, which I don't particularly.

The timer system killed off a lot of house selling, as you can no longer effectively sell to first time buyers. Ideally housing would be unlimited, but it's not, so simply deleting measures that discourage house flipping isn't a good idea.

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Hilarious. You missed the point by a mile. Let me clarify what was already obvious.

The plots no one wants to relocate to are in the Goblet. Therefore, players that desire a house only really have a shot at the plots that are available in the Goblet. These players do not typically desire a plot in the goblet because it's arguably the worst housing area to be in. Therefore, players who manage to get their first house in the Goblet sometimes (often) pay another player with a more desirable plot so they can get out of the ghetto that is the goblet.

I've never said anything about buyers paying other buyers to leave a placard alone or anything remotely similar. If you still want to believe that players don't pay other players in order to relocate to a more desirable plot, then you probably think players don't get involved in RMT or content sales.

Anyway, lemme say it again for the record.

Sellers are no affected by the new rules, because they can still sell FC houses just like they always did and they can still sell a personal plot to a player that wants to relocate out of the terrible plot they got due to the new system.

I'm curious, why do people not like the Goblet? Is it the layout? The general aesthetic? The interior layout stuff you can't change?

I guess it works out well for me being my favorite housing area if everyone else hates it.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

I'm curious, why do people not like the Goblet? Is it the layout? The general aesthetic? The interior layout stuff you can't change?

I guess it works out well for me being my favorite housing area if everyone else hates it.

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Unless you get a house right by the pools, it's canyons, rocks, and fog. Mist has a really simple to navigate layout plus the beach, Beds is full of flower power and streams, and Shiro is weeb town. It's aesthetically harder to compete and the pillars may be undesirable as well.

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Originally Posted by Gula

Unless you get a house right by the pools, it's canyons, rocks, and fog. Mist has a really simple to navigate layout plus the beach, Beds is full of flower power and streams, and Shiro is weeb town. It's aesthetically harder to compete and the pillars may be undesirable as well.

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I would xfer to Ishgard in a heartbeat if I could.

I guess it's just a matter of taste then, I just happen to like the canyons and the layout of the Goblet itself with its tunnels and levels etc.

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Originally Posted by Gula

Unless you get a house right by the pools, it's canyons, rocks, and fog. Mist has a really simple to navigate layout plus the beach, Beds is full of flower power and streams, and Shiro is weeb town. It's aesthetically harder to compete and the pillars may be undesirable as well.

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Personally I like the canyon views in Goblet better than the plots by the Brimming Heart. For me, the layout in Goblet is the problem. Most of the houses are staring squarely at other houses and it's usually the backs or sides, not the fronts.

I like the earth tone aesthetics and I created an autumn forest for outside our FC house that doesn't look all that out of place. I do wish that SE would have used xeriscape design for decoration instead of dumping a bunch of huge ugly swimming pools into the middle of Goblet and thinking that improves the look because it doesn't.

I like the pool personally, though maybe that's just me. The pool was added because they wanted to give all four housing wards an area to swim in. I think the goblet used to have a shallow little pool area before, but not deep enough to swim, I think that got removed when they revamped it for the new pool area though.

If the goblet is unpopular though that's good news for me, maybe it'll make it easier to eventually snag a medium plot there than it would be in the other areas. Though if we get Ishgard housing, depending on what they do I may be tempted into that...