To Yoshi P

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Originally Posted by Madda

Ever see a post on the forums that just makes you stop and really think about the reasons why devs don't usually interact with players anymore?

This thread is one of them.

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Last time I remember Yoshi P posting something in a response to these forums was when the community was asking for a freeze on house demolitions after those hurricanes hit the U.S. last year. I wouldn't say interacting with the players on the forums was ever a regular thing the DEVS did. The CMs do sometimes.

It's pretty toxic how much some of you are hating on my post just because I dared to bring up my MS to share why FFXIV means even more to me now within the same lengthy post that I implied I have a negative view of limited jobs. I didn't even state why I do because that wasn't the point of the post. But I bet the pro limited blu people would have used me as a point for why it's a good idea IF I had implied that I had a positive view of the concept.

The thing that rubbed people the wrong way, I think, was that it sounded like because you have a disability, the game needs to cater to you. Unfortunately that's just not how the game works nor is it how life works. If you had mentioned your statement without the use of your medical condition, I think you would have found a different response.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

The thing that rubbed people the wrong way, I think, was that it sounded like because you have a disability, the game needs to cater to you. Unfortunately that's just not how the game works nor is it how life works. If you had mentioned your statement without the use of your medical condition, I think you would have found a different response.

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I never said the game should be catered to me. Wouldn't it have made more sense if I were disabled to be pro limited jobs as means to get more content that I could do at a pace that suited me? If you check my second post, I'm not against the content itself.

Me bringing up my MS was part of me explaining why the game is important to me. Notice how I talked about my illness only in a single paragraph while stating why I care about the game before I got into why I was writing the post.

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Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget

I never said you said that. I simply said that's how it comes off and is probably the reason you're getting flak. Good luck and have a great day! Hope to see you as blu sometime in the future.

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Fair enough I suppose but I still don't get how people are viewing the post that way. Hope you have a good day and safe holidays if you do all of that. I got my chin split open when I was 4 on black friday so I hate the whole holiday shopping blitz.

I never said you said that. I simply said that's how it comes off and is probably the reason you're getting flak. Good luck and have a great day! Hope to see you as blu sometime in the future.

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Originally Posted by jon041065

I never said the game should be catered to me. Wouldn't it have made more sense if I were disabled to be pro limited jobs as means to get more content that I could do at a pace that suited me? If you check my second post, I'm not against the content itself.

Me bringing up my MS was part of me explaining why the game is important to me.

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Maybe so but this is how it was taking whether if you meant it that way or not.

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Originally Posted by jon041065

That I had heard of a story of you standing up for the players of your game against what you were being told by the executives of Square Enix. I do not know if that story is true but I could definitely imagine that it was. I was happy for you when I heard your hard work was being honored by you becoming an exec and that more trust was being placed in you.

I was very excited during the first day of the recent Fan Fest and a little bit worried about what “limited job” could mean. Then that excitement turned to disappointment when I heard what the concept actually is and you reasons for it. It made me feel that you were shying away from the challenge and that I had already seen the best work you’re capable of. Or worse yet, that you viewed this as a situation to take care of three requests from your players and boost subscription retention. That it was a decision made by an exec of the company and not the game director that I was telling my online friends about.

I still have some belief in you and want to have full trust in you once more. I understand that us players ask a lot from you and your team. I saw it as most of us believing you were capable of delivering on what we ask for or that you would get there with time. That is the way I want to feel again and not to feel that this game is heading in the wrong direction.

Okay, bring on the hate. This isn’t intended to be another thread to be debate in but I’m guessing it will happen anyway. I just wanted to vent some feelings I felt didn’t fit in those other threads.

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Time and again, Yoshida has said he doesn't think Blue Mage could work in Final Fantasy XIV. Bold for emphasis; XIV has a very stern trifecta of tank, healer and DPS and content balanced around it. For what BLU can do and what it is, regardless of the iteration (even if you tried to transpose XI's BLU here) still has a system tied to it that does not adhere to the mold that is XIV's system. It's fine to be worried about what the limited job system will bring, but can we at least let the thing come out before passing judgement and pushing a desire? We still don't know for sure if BLU's exclusion from current content is permanent, if it'll always never meet level cap or if this isn't meant to be a long term feedback (possibly years) and implementation to try and deliver what players want from the classes they will deem limited. As others have pointed out before me, yeah, a class that can't at least meet current level cap, limited to dungeons and fights I've already done a couple hundred times, isn't exactly something I'm looking forward to, even with it's little carnival mini-game.

Other people above me have brought up other valid points or differing perspectives. Of course there's going to be a back and forth on this kind of a topic. We've also already gotten a couple threads on the subject already, minus the life-story. Before I get pounced on for this, we're both similar ages; we both know just about everyone's got health problems and there are things we latch onto to make our sufferings seem not so bad. Don't use it as a tool to push something.

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Originally Posted by JunseiKei

Other people above me have brought up other valid points or differing perspectives. Of course there's going to be a back and forth on this kind of a topic. We've also already gotten a couple threads on the subject already, minus the life-story. Before I get pounced on for this, we're both similar ages; we both know just about everyone's got health problems and there are things we latch onto to make our sufferings seem not so bad. Don't use it as a tool to push something.

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I've already said I'm not going to debate limited jobs here as I'm doing that in the threads intended for that.

If I was attempting to use my MS to push for what I want, I would have mentioned it a lot more than just in the second paragraph while I was explaining why the game is important to me.

But I can't change how people perceive things just as I won't change my original post because some people are taking it in a different way than the way I meant.

Might I suggest then that you stick to the key talk point of your post, that you feel let down by Yoshi-P in his direction with Blue Mage?

I can kind of see Yoshi-P perspective on this. He and his team personally feel the funniest thing about Blue Mage was running around and unlocking new spells, and he isn't wrong. I always saw Final Fantasy's Blue Mage as more of a completionist job rather than the one I took into the final battle, mainly because of the extra time it took to unlock all the useful skills you would need rather than just using Black mage or Summoner. Honestly 9999 damage was 9999 damage no matter where it came from.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

Might I suggest then that you stick to the key talk point of your post, that you feel let down by Yoshi-P in his direction with Blue Mage?

I can kind of see Yoshi-P perspective on this. He and his team personally feel the funniest thing about Blue Mage was running around and unlocking new spells, and he isn't wrong. I always saw Final Fantasy's Blue Mage as more of a completionist job rather than the one I took into the final battle, mainly because of the extra time it took to unlock all the useful skills you would need rather than just using Black mage or Summoner. Honestly 9999 damage was 9999 damage no matter where it came from.

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Until Kimahri (couldn't resist~).

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

Might I suggest then that you stick to the key talk point of your post, that you feel let down by Yoshi-P in his direction with Blue Mage?

I can kind of see Yoshi-P perspective on this. He and his team personally feel the funniest thing about Blue Mage was running around and unlocking new spells, and he isn't wrong. I always saw Final Fantasy's Blue Mage as more of a completionist job rather than the one I took into the final battle, mainly because of the extra time it took to unlock all the useful skills you would need rather than just using Black mage or Summoner. Honestly 9999 damage was 9999 damage no matter where it came from.

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It's with the concept of limited jobs and not blue mage itself and I've been avoiding giving my reasons why I feel that way because it's not the point of my post as you said.

I've been trying to address the fact that people are viewing the meaning of my post in a different way than my intention while writing it. I can't control others' perception so that will probably happen regardless unless I edit my original post and that's something I won't do as it will change what I was trying to say.

I'll give you and LittleChickenNugget my thanks though for not being toxic and trying to understand where I was coming from. Have a good one.