"The story is not relevant for many players. Maybe some parts of it are interesting. These players here are for end-game raiding,crafting,socializing in the new areas,taking screenshots etc.(The other reasons people play an MMORPG as opposed to a single-player game)Quote:
Originally Posted by xbahax92
Heck, the fact that paid skip potions exists indicate that SE is aware of this segment of players and they are significant enough to cater a product for them."
5.0 and MSQ Skip: Free Skip Potion?
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11-19-2018, 05:06 PMTwistedTea
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11-19-2018, 05:10 PMLaylaTsarra
No the skips won't be free... they've already shown that you have to pay for skip to 60 and it would make no sense for them to allow skip to 70 for free. I do suspect they will have a free fantasia this time around like they did when they introduced Aura.
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11-19-2018, 05:13 PMShanXiv
SE invested most resources on these content,
& some people choose not to do it...lol
there's not much left to play in this game really.
You won't have more fun on gears & glamours than the story,
Idling in the town & queue for duty finder 1000x times are not better than reading the story text & watching the quest cutscenes.
then you will get bored very soon & move to the next FOTM game, just like other 95% players -
11-19-2018, 05:18 PMTalshara_Bladeunnecessary gates? THAT is the game!Quote:
Originally Posted by TwistedTea
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11-19-2018, 05:24 PMTwistedTeaInvesting resources does not equate to quality enjoyable content; see Eureka.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShanXiv
There's a lot to do in this game even without the MSQ or Eureka.Also I'm not against the entirety of the MSQ.
I've done all the sidequests from ARR to SB. Have most of my Beast Tribes at max rep or close to max rep.
Leveled up 3 healers and 2 DOLs. Plus a few other classes at various levels.
Currently leveling all my crafters. Once I'm done with crafters, it'll be onto farming old Ex primals for mounts either solo or duo. Then maybe some of the old ARR raids solo or with a few friends.
Then maybe attempt to clear POTD/HOH solo. After which maybe all the Gold Saucer stuff/levequest/fate achievements/rewards...
Don't make assumptions about my attachment to this game. -
11-19-2018, 05:43 PMJojoyaThere's plenty of content new players can do with others while they're leveling to 50 and experienced players can always level sync to do dungeons and FATEs with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by TwistedTea
It's a story driven game and part of the pre-50 story is starting to take on new significance. Instead of trying to push them into end game faster, wouldn't it be better to encourage them to take their time and enjoy the journey then help them get through the more tedious parts with player assisting player? Just give them a friendly warning that some of the early content isn't the greatest because it was scraped together from 1.0 leftovers but it will be worth it in the long run.
I have yet to meet a player that started by using a jump potion that didn't end up regretting it, even if part of the leveling experience thru 2.3 can get tedious at times. -
11-19-2018, 05:48 PMShanXivI've 1 main & 4 alts, all of them had finished the MSQ,you can finish 1-70 MSQ in 1-2 weeks I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by TwistedTea
two of them had maxed all DOW/DOM/DOH/DOL jobs
all DOH/DOL jobs are max level ,by doing supply mission(just hanging out some items to the NPC) and the tribe quest, that's not very fun.
The mounts in Mog station are much cooler than some old ex primal mounts..
the XDS Fenrir, Moogle, Cloud, Odin horse & the whale mounts for example, & the XDS has a speed boost.
The lv50 ex primal drop some horse mounts, their tails are very ugly..I never use them
The old raid dungeons could be fun on first or 2nd try, but they are getting old very fast.
Collecting the old raid gears? you can buy them in the market board, & they are better because they are dyeable.
You won't meet many new friends in this game because it encourages you solo almost everything in this game. -
11-19-2018, 05:57 PMTwistedTeaI took my time with reading dialogue and not skipping cutscenes. So I'm all for new players who want to do the same. However, the number of posts here and on Reddit about new players getting burned out by MSQ,especially ARR MSQ is not something we should ignore either or try to brush away with, "It'll get better in HW, we promise!" Players assisting new players through the tedious bits is a community solution to game design choices.Quote:
It's a story driven game and part of the pre-50 story is starting to take on new significance. Instead of trying to push them into end game faster, wouldn't it be better to encourage them to take their time and enjoy the journey then help them get through the more tedious parts with player assisting player? Just give them a friendly warning that some of the early content isn't the greatest because it was scraped together from 1.0 leftovers but it will be worth it in the long run.
I have yet to meet a player that started by using a jump potion that didn't end up regretting it, even if part of the leveling experience thru 2.3 can get tedious at times.
The fact that some players regretted not doing the MSQ is not an excuse for gating out players who are interested in other things that a normal MMORPG offers.
They've already been streamlining the MSQ. Take it a few steps further with 6.0 and try not to gate everything behind MSQ.
In the meantime, when 5.0 launches why not give new players a free MSQ skip option to the start of 5.0 with a recap movie? -
11-19-2018, 06:05 PMbass9020Again I ask, why are you so concerned about new players? 4.0 launches with limited access to jump potions and it was still beyond crowded, we barely could play the first couple days. New players aren’t little fragile babies that need to be coddled or cherished. They can eithe buy a potion or not buy one, it’s pretty simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by TwistedTea
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11-19-2018, 06:10 PMTwistedTeaI don't actually think 1-70 MSQ is feasible for a brand new player. More like about a month or 2. Also for side content, there's stuff like the Hildibrand quests. I enjoyed parts of Hildy ARR quests more than many of the post-Castrum quests. Game devs have plenty of choices when it comes to making enjoyable content.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShanXiv
While I'm inclined to agree with this,since I've already stated that the MSQ is mostly a solo experience, I think this also depends on the individual player. I've made friends by randomly emoting at people or sending them a tell that their glam is super awesome!Quote:
You won't meet many new friends in this game because it encourages you solo almost everything in this game.
It would be nice if they added more tools to facilitate communication.