Request: Make Pagos NM Items Obtainable

I've still never even seen the Cassie FATE, even on the map when I was too low level to get up there easily. I've also never done the Angra Mainyu FATE, though I used to see it pop on the map, I guess people have stopped popping it because it's the hardest one to get to.

I'd like to see them adjust Cassie's spawn rate, and also adjust drop rates for FATEs/bunnies/cold warped boxes. Or just add all that loot to regular pagos boxes and then remove materia from cold warped and bunny chests.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

I don't really see how Anemos was nerfed into the ground at all. There's an EXP boost but as far as I can tell it only applies to regular enemies and not the NMs (that or it's such an insignificant boost I don't really see it), and nobody really did those to level anyway. The grinds for the actual gear are still the same as ever, the same amount of stuff drops per NM and the gear all costs the same amount of stuff. The only real difference is that now you can skip Pazuzu, but nobody ever skips Pazuzu anyway; every instance I join people are still itching to go and kill him.

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Anemos really does not need to be nerfed as the train makes it so that a player only needs to spend a few days there to complete with nearly everything. Pagos is the one that needs to be nerfed to the other side of the moon in order to get to the same playability as Anemos.

I never said it needed to be nerfed; someone else (#20) implied that Anemos was "nerfed into the ground" and I was just pointing out they didn't really do anything to it. The gear grind is virtually untouched.

If anything, it's harder now because Anemos is often filled with people who are just on their own killing stuff for their challenge log (almost entirely level 20+ people, presumably because leveling in Pagos sucks) and not contributing to the NM train, but their presence in the instance still gives the NMs more HP and makes them take longer to kill than before.

Anemos just needs a way to trade pazuzu feathers for the big Anemos crystals
1 feather = 20 crystals
same with loui ice

I hope when they add Pyros they also adjust the droprates in Pagos.

I'd pretty much given up on Pagos but a friend insisted it's not so bad & offered to taxi me about over the weekend.

I can agree that it's not so terrible once you get to level 32, but until you can use both aetherytes it's brutal. Missing FATE after FATE because the train can TP right to them while you have to walk end to end each time gets real old real fast.

Change the TP requirements to 23/25 or maybe even lower, reduce the amount of FATE crystals required a tad, let the light farm start straight away. Do all that and it might even become genuinely enjoyable.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Change the TP requirements to 23/25 or maybe even lower, reduce the amount of FATE crystals required a tad, let the light farm start straight away. Do all that and it might even become genuinely enjoyable.

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Yeah, making the teleporters available right from the start is an easy fix wich will have a huge impact on the accessibility of Pagos and - Pyros.

There is absolutely no good reason to keep the teleporters locked, but there are reasons to unlock them.

Mainly because it is nearly impossible to find a leveling party to chain monsters. Most people are already 35 and because of the exp penalty you need people on your own level. Plus after they patched the NM exp and light gain people are only interested in the train. Good luck with finding 7 other people on your own level to chain monsters...

The design of Eureka as a whole is a failure. And SE kind of admitted it after they fixed Pagos (to some degree) to bring the train back, wich is the only option where people can actually play cooperative together. They just have to finish the job by removing the needless restriction wich prevents people from catching up by unlocking the teleporters.

I mean, in the rest of the game SE is paying attention that casual players, new players and people who were taking breaks can catch up easily and are not locked out of content. But with Pagos they have failed in that regard. And arguably in Eureka as a whole, since the train was unintended. The real design wich SE intended for Eureka simply has no catch up mechanic and when you missed out the first rush, good luck!

But even when they make the train viable for low levels, there is still the problem that Eureka is not solo friendly and when people move on and Eureka dies out, you pretty much can't play this content anymore.

I agree with making the items obtainable in the future. Perhaps we'll see things like the shiver emote in whatever the next iteration of POTD is. Or the next version of Uznair Canals.

Some of the things only work in Pagos though, right? Like the cassie earrings and speed belt? Or is the cassie earring just for glamour? (I've done Pagos but never got either one)

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

Some of the things only work in Pagos though, right? Like the cassie earrings and speed belt? Or is the cassie earring just for glamour? (I've done Pagos but never got either one)

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Cassie Earrings can be used outside of Eureka for glamour, but have actual use within Eureka only.

Never been so frustrated in obtaining those 3 items in pagos. No idea what the dev team was thinking of the drop rate knowing that ppl eventually going to move on to the nxt area. That ppl are going to spawn it is going to decrease overtime. I so wanted to glamour them :(.