The "Crafting" Beast Tribe?

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Ixal is for crafting up to level 50, Moogles for up to 60, Namazu for Level 70.

Though they're going to run out of beast tribes come next expansion. You can't keep repeating the same formula and expect people to be enthusiastic about repeating the same thing they did before.

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Most likely they may introduce a new system to replace Beast tribes later on.

Maybe new Craft Daily with a story focus on rebuilding a destroyed town/village/section of a city.

It would be a ideal crafter daily storyline as well if the suspecion of WoL going to Garlemald in 5.0 is correct because the destruction of a good amount of the city and towns maybe devestating once the war is finally on the Garlean Empire's territory and the Garlean Empire unleash their best weapons to defeat the Alliance.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Though they're going to run out of beast tribes come next expansion. You can't keep repeating the same formula and expect people to be enthusiastic about repeating the same thing they did before.

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I don't agree with any of this. They obviously aren't going to literally run out, since they used three new beast tribes in Stormblood. But also, what do you want in their place? The beast tribe quests are basically a revised version of leves, and they do their job very well. Sure, they could do the same content without beast tribes, but then what are they going to do with the beast tribes? They'll likely want to feature them somehow. I also don't see how they can substantially change the nature of the quests. What exactly do you want them to do differently?

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Originally Posted by Talraen

I don't agree with any of this. They obviously aren't going to literally run out, since they used three new beast tribes in Stormblood. But also, what do you want in their place? The beast tribe quests are basically a revised version of leves, and they do their job very well. Sure, they could do the same content without beast tribes, but then what are they going to do with the beast tribes? They'll likely want to feature them somehow. I also don't see how they can substantially change the nature of the quests. What exactly do you want them to do differently?

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Consider that the Garlean Empire considers the beasts and Eorzeans to be "savages", they'd kill off any beast tribes in their areas AND any Eozeans they can't subjugate. If we're going to see an incursion into their territory, there will not be beast tribes. Rebels maybe, but they'd not operate out in the open like the Beast tribes do. So the kind of thing we've done with the Moogles and Ixal would not be happening.

No the only beast tribes left in the game that we haven't done the "good guy beast tribe" with are the Qiqirn.

From a purely crafting/gathering perspective, what makes sense is something like "hamlet defense" , and rewarding contribution and effectiveness. That would be the logical thing to come out of what we've been doing with the Moogles. Build a hamlet, tower-defense style, placements matter. (If you've played Dungeon Defenders, like that.) Even a party of DoL/DoH could do it.

But I'm not sure how many more "mini-games" FFXIV can justify having.

Lupine as a beast tribe? Unless added asap could be tricky fitting into SB

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Originally Posted by Sekkei

I don't know about A and S rank being a problem, as long as those people do their business at the tribe's area. The Namazu are going to be in an area of the Azim Steppe that's supposedly only accessible by flying and there will be an aetheryte to teleport there as well.

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If it's located along the Western mountain, it is possible to scale on foot.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

So the kind of thing we've done with the Moogles and Ixal would not be happening.

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I'm amused you brought the Ixali up as an example because that particular group was caught between two hostile factions, Gridania and the Ixali of Xelphatol (three if we want to include Ishgard). A lot of the quests involved you utilizing that Lalafell's connections, a party whose ties to the beast tribe were unknown - in a sense, a spy. They're a prime example to how a beast tribe can work behind enemy lines.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Consider that the Garlean Empire considers the beasts and Eorzeans to be "savages", they'd kill off any beast tribes in their areas AND any Eozeans they can't subjugate. If we're going to see an incursion into their territory, there will not be beast tribes. Rebels maybe, but they'd not operate out in the open like the Beast tribes do. So the kind of thing we've done with the Moogles and Ixal would not be happening.

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Way too much assumption.

Even if the patch was focused on taking on the Garlean Empire, that doesn't mean all the new zone will be in Garlemad(?). And even in zones within, there's still the potential for helping BST tribes that have been in hiding.

Also Kojin, Anata and Namazu were added in SB, so I don't understand where this notion of "we'll run out of Beast tribes" is coming from. They can literally add whatever they want with each new expansion.

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Originally Posted by Talraen

I don't agree with any of this. They obviously aren't going to literally run out, since they used three new beast tribes in Stormblood. But also, what do you want in their place? The beast tribe quests are basically a revised version of leves, and they do their job very well. Sure, they could do the same content without beast tribes, but then what are they going to do with the beast tribes? They'll likely want to feature them somehow. I also don't see how they can substantially change the nature of the quests. What exactly do you want them to do differently?

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for SB they could've done Azim Steppe tribe quests and Hancock quests for crafting. the Ananta quests are basically the Resistance anyway, could've done it exactly the same without the main quest character being Ananta.

they didn't have to do anything with the Kojin outside of what's already in the MSQ.