Account Penalties Decrease after Each year (add as a rule)

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Originally Posted by akaneakki

You know what's funny? I could go around saying ???? all the time, so I will get reported for that too? That guy mostlikely didn't have the filter on at all, because if he was, why did he get offended?

Anyways I think I will stop here, because it's clearly okay to go report people for saying question marks lol. Well asuming he did use the filter which I believe he didn't.
Also 1 more thing, someone got a warning on their account because they asked a person to please call out Hunts so the community can participate. That's also very amazing.
But yeah, let's support that while we at it :).

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If you typed out a word that got converted to question marks, you didn't type out question marks.

As far as this "someone" getting a warning for asking someone to call out hunts, without seeing the exchange I can only assume it wasn't as innocent of a request as you suggest with a warning being issued.

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Originally Posted by akaneakki

You know what's funny? I could go around saying ???? all the time, so I will get reported for that too? That guy mostlikely didn't have the filter on at all, because if he was, why did he get offended?

Anyways I think I will stop here, because it's clearly okay to go report people for saying question marks lol. Well asuming he did use the filter which I believe he didn't.
Also 1 more thing, someone got a warning on their account because they asked a person to please call out Hunts so the community can participate. That's also very amazing.
But yeah, let's support that while we at it :).

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If you just type out question marks and end up reported, you won't be actioned against anyway. So there's no real point you're making here, to be frank.

I'm going to side with the players against this idea for several reasons, primary of which is simply use of profanity is against the terms of service for Final Fantasy XIV. That's really the end of the story. Yes, there is a filter in place, however that filter does not give players license to use whatever language they choose in public channels. There are instances in which you can likely type as you'd like (see: linkshells in which you know all of the players, free companies in which you know other members won't report you), but in /say, /shout, /party, and /alliance you are expected to adhere to the terms set forth in the initial agreement when you started playing the game.

I know it may be difficult to not be able to use your favorite four letter word as a modifier, but you could always expand your vocabulary and find better ways to express your excitement or disappointment. When you're speaking in public, you need to keep things civil, and speak in a manner the average person would be okay with saying in front of a young person.

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Originally Posted by Xaphire

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Yep, my approach is this, when it comes to the "public channels" (E.G. /say, /shout, etc) I treat it as speak like you would talk to your best friend, in front of your hyper strict grandmother.

If a person has been pulled up three times then it begs the question on why that person keeps doing something that technically they shouldn't have done once, let alone three times. In a lot of places in the real world you would get kicked out for similar conduct by just doing it once.

Learn the rules and keep to them. It is not rocket science. A vast majority of players manage to get buy without ever getting reported once.

I feel like the only reason some people leave the filter off is so that they'll have easier access to flimsy excuses they can use for reporting somebody.

TIL people violating rules is a flimsy excuse for reporting.

SE's policy just comes across as extremely alien to me, because every other mainsteam MMO I played protected people who casually used language some might find offensive strictly because a filter existed.

I think a lot of people don't even realize that rule exists with how many people I've seen casually tossing around censored swears in groups or even NN at times. Or maybe they do, but just function under the assumption most people aren't petty enough to report them for it.

How do you know you have had a warning?

While I have reported quite a few people for obvious stupid things.

*Numerious Mentors being asshats
*One extremely offensive name
*Party Sabotage

I've not gotten a warning in-game...and I'll admit...sometimes I get a little terse (oh wow big surprise yeah?)

I'd say SE is more than fair in this case....surprisingly so.

So yeah....no change needed....if anything file a petition and make an inquiry. But we don't need a change in the current system.