Why are SMNs not getting new Egi?

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Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu

A Phoenix Egi which already exists in-game (never seen it outside of its name on the enemy list) would be cool. Lower damage than Garuda-egi, but perhaps and maybe tied to a trait, a sort of auto-life ability for the summoner so if they die, the egi may die too and revive the summoner and put that summon ability on a cooldown or something to prevent a theoretically immortal summoner and keep it as a sort of oh shit button.

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before sb dropped there were several ideas how to raise interaction with your pets to fit the lore even more. I like that phoenix thing and could imagine it as 2nd Demi-Primal very well. if we will ever get some more interaction with egis or any chance that our egis became more relevant - I wouldn't mind letting RDM/BLM pass in burst dmg. At least interaction would make the cls design more unique in the caster landscape not blocking the burst king spot for Blm any longer...

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Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu

A Phoenix Egi which already exists in-game (never seen it outside of its name on the enemy list) would be cool. Lower damage than Garuda-egi, but perhaps and maybe tied to a trait, a sort of auto-life ability for the summoner so if they die, the egi may die too and revive the summoner and put that summon ability on a cooldown or something to prevent a theoretically immortal summoner and keep it as a sort of oh shit button.

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I like the phoenix idea. I would also have no qualms with it making me immortal. ;)

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Originally Posted by Shouko

As for the glamour that was also promised or hinted at a while back but got put on the back burner, but they managed to get out carbuncle glams instead.

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Carbuncle was simply the first egi glamour using that developed system. I'd hardly call that something promised or hinted at, when it's already there.

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

and sadly seemed to die soon after launch.

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3.5 added Carbuncles and the Egi Glamour System. 4.0 added a demi-egi. While 4.1 hasn't added a new egi glamour, they didn't say that every future patch would contain a new egi glamour, just that new egi glamours would be added in future patches.
It's too soon to call it a dead system, so let's hold off on that until we know what'll be in 4.2.

I didn't read most of the thread, but probably the most valid answer is that the more Egi SMN gets, the more complicated learning the class becomes over the other jobs.

Imagine having to learn six different sets of rotations/situational uses for six different Egi while MNK still presses pretty much the exact same buttons in the exact same order as it did in 2.x. Until 4.0 players were already discouraged from really learning the job because it was complicated, so complicating it more would have been a terrible idea.


I feel for you, though, I would like to see the Egi/Dots/Ruin system completely abolished and see more Demi-style summons that last 20-30 seconds and utilize different big hits or skills while rotating between them (similar to the way BRD songs currently work).

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Originally Posted by Llugen

more Demi-style summons that last 20-30 seconds and utilize different big hits or skills while rotating between them (similar to the way BRD songs currently work).

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If they gonna improve the petsystem at all this will be the easiest solution for lore and cls design ya. Personally would like it as well - fe the phoenix idea above :3