Why are SMNs not getting new Egi?

[Desril]

As it is right now, we have 3 types of summons;

Summon 1 - Garuda - Ranged magic DPS (Single target)
Summon 2 - Titan - Tank
Summon 3 - Ifrit - Melee physical DPS (Minor AoE)

There are a *lot* of Primals out there who would offer variable styles and others that are similar enough that they could be just egi-glamours.

Ramuh *could* work as a Summon 1 glamor, but he'd also be an excellent magic DoT pet for a Summon 4. Shiva would be an excellent Summon 5 Ranged physical DPS (single target), Leviathan would be an excellent Summon 6 AoE magic pet, and those are just the original 6, without getting into HW or Stormblood (though admittedly more than 6 summons *is* a bit much and those probably should just be glamors)

[Desril]

And then, lastly, there's Demi-Bahamut, who's really, really awesome appearance wise. Why is the only Demi-Primal we can summon Bahamut though? Why can't we replace egis with demi-primals in general? Obviously they all need to be smaller than the Large Bahamut model, but at 70 why can't the class quest be to learn to harness more power/control and stabilize the primals as demi versions that work essentially like the passive enhancements, just to the Summons? (Apparently there's a 1200 character limit to posts)

[Kurando]

Well one day it might happen, the idea was considered a long time ago and the are plenty of egis in the game that could potentially be glamoured. It definitely doesn't seem to be a priority at the moment and if anything glamour related needed to be looked at, it's related to the equipment more than anything.

As for character limit, you can edit posts afterwards to bypass it that way and put as much as you want.

[magnanimousCynic]

It's much easier to balance three Egis and a DemiPrimal than 6 Egis and/or 6 DemiPrimals.

[Shouko]

I believe they had intentions (could be wrong) to add in new ones at some point back in ARR but seeing as how Titan is worthless, Ifrit is more for pvp/bosses and Garuda is more used than the other 2 it just kinda fell apart.

As for the glamour that was also promised or hinted at a while back but got put on the back burner, but they managed to get out carbuncle glams instead.

Either way you're unlikely to get an official response from the devs here, if there's a post about it from them it would be more than likely buried in the smn thread on the Jp side.

[Kabooa]

It's much easier to balance three Egis and a DemiPrimal than 6 Egis and/or 6 DemiPrimals.

While true, there's no reason you can't feature the Egi's as part of spell animations. This wouldn't be a matter of balance but would cement the Summoner visually summoning a creature to execute the attack rather than themselves.

For example, if Painflare animated as Demi-Ifrit blasting an area with flame.

[Karshan]

The same reason "builds" don't really exist : false choice.

As someone said, and it was particularly true in HS it only changed recently : it was Garuda 99% of the time.
Introducing new Egis and balancing so that all are equally viable is hard af, so one will be a little more powerful and get picked. People will be too lazy to change in dungeon or midfight anyway (well to be honest, I'll be, dunno about others, but people are lazy in general).
So more choice to not pick up from = useless (in terms of ressources to spend for development team).

So all that remains is glamour. "Pulease looka forward to it" Well, still looking.

[popotaro]

Ifrit is more for pvp/bosses and Garuda is more used than the other 2

What the...? You know we only have Demi-Bahamut in PVP and that Sicfrit is being more used than Garuda right?

[Shouko]

What the...? You know we only have Demi-Bahamut in PVP and that Sicfrit is being more used that Garuda right?

Well I don't PvP and was told differently about Ifrit and Garuda, I don't honestly pay attention to who has what out most of the time, I'll admit my knowledge of HW/SB SMN is limited, I quit playing it in ARR.

[popotaro]

Well I don't PvP and was told differently about Ifrit and Garuda, I don't honestly pay attention to who has what out most of the time, I'll admit my knowledge of HW/SB SMN is limited, I quite playing it in ARR.

Get a new friend, that one is sharing wrong knowledge lol