How to kill house flippers easy

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

Flipping requires 2 things.
1. Intent to sell right from the start of purchase.
2. Profit

It's that easy.

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Nothing in life is that simple. You believe it's alright to charge any price as long as it's not more than what you paid. I believe that's wrong and the system needs to be fixed to stop it.

The rest of that original post, just fine. Cap the price at the full cost of the plot and allow direct sales, I can get behind that.

Charging an extra 200mil because that's what you paid the last guy? Not okay.

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Originally Posted by Calteru

Not really. The server population is capped at a maximum, so a viable solution for both player and developer could be having the game engine spawn another ward when all current wards are full. This is a solution that does not punish "regular folk" and addresses the housing shortage in a manner that is detrimental to the housing gray market.

But it won't completely solve the problem, as there will still be a handful of people adamant about purchasing whatever they like, wherever they wish, whenever they choose. I leave it to the community at large to decide if that particular facet is worth addressing, as I don't feel that it is.

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That just doesn't seem possible though. If it were, wouldn't they have already done it? And that would certainly bring up the issue of there being not enough medium/large houses.. It doesn't seem viable.

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Originally Posted by Acilith

That just doesn't seem possible though. If it were, wouldn't they have already done it? And that would certainly bring up the issue of there being not enough medium/large houses.. It doesn't seem viable.

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Look, I gave up on trying to find perfect solutions a long, long, LONG time ago.The only way to make sure everyone has a large is to only have large houses. No smalls, no mediums. I kinda like the fact that not everything is cookie-cutter here.

They could just scrap the wards and give everyone their own instanced plot of their choosing, maybe a plot that you can upgrade in size. That's.. also not viable though. It's just too much work to do from the ground up, and I think only NA servers have the issues we have.

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Originally Posted by Septonyte

How about, when a house is relinquished and bought both players in question have thier gil transactions for the past X amount of time looked into. If a large amount is transferred from the new owner to the old owner by any means then both accounts are temp banned, new owner loses the house, and old owner loses all the new gil. In other words. the GMs could ACTUALLY do their jobs by upholding the ToS and there is a gil sink that is worth a damn.

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I see so many problems poping if this would to be implemented.

When I open this thread, I was expecting like sending them bunch of poisoned cupcakes. :p
The resale window and convert option is nice, but I don't see how any form of gifting would not be abused by the flippers.

I have better idea: gives us actual system to sell houses to other players and recognize "those evil flippers" as any other trader. Price is dictated by market, it's high because people are ready to pay it. Plot prices set by SE are a joke.
I'd gladly buy large house from someone if I had 100% guarantee it's safe. There is nothing else to do with gil anyway.

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Originally Posted by Terkhev

I have better idea: gives us actual system to sell houses to other players and recognize "those evil flippers" as any other trader. Price is dictated by market, it's high because people are ready to pay it. Plot prices set by SE are a joke.
I'd gladly buy large house from someone if I had 100% guarantee it's safe. There is nothing else to do with gil anyway.

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Not really a fix though. People pay cause they are desperate.

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Originally Posted by Rinuko

Not really a fix though. People pay cause they are desperate.

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But that's (in much simplification) how economy works: balance between supply and demand. With such a small supply it's only natural to have very high price. Artificially limiting options to buy houses only from SE/server is not a solution and results in making supply even smaller (by encouraging hoarding). If players could sell houses it'd make prices high but at the same time everyone could just "earn" it in their own pace and not rely on RNG or beg SE for more plots.

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Originally Posted by Terkhev

But that's (in much simplification) how economy works: balance between supply and demand. With such a small supply it's only natural to have very high price. Artificially limiting options to buy houses only from SE/server is not a solution and results in making supply even smaller (by encouraging hoarding). If players could sell houses it'd make prices high but at the same time everyone could just "earn" it in their own pace and not rely on RNG or beg SE for more plots.

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I'm not saying you're wrong but I see problems with say someone sell a Large in Shirogane for 500M-1000M (seen it happen) and it be placed on MB (imagine the taxes damn) we havnt really solved anything , we just moved the transactions and made it "safer" but the issue remains.