Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

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Originally Posted by Loki_Jortunn

My biggest question which you have touched on is how do we change to PLD from GLD, is it down to the weapon we equip or is there a sub menu where we select it? If its another range of weapons that are going to have to be added that make them specific to PLD and not GLD and the same for every other class. I can foresee the retainer search system becoming every more messy if they go about it this way, of course they could make it that all class weapons are rare/ex so the retainers never have to deal with them.

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The preview Yoshi gave was the "Job Stone" an item you would equip to transform into that job. I can see another slot being added to our equipment screen (similar to arrow / throwing weapon slot) that acts as a "stone holder" or "rune slot". Once you have acquired your job stone you can just equip / un-equip via the equipment screen > rune slot.

That's the way I have it envisioned in my head. I believe this is a logical assumption since we manage all our class changes via the equipment screen (weapon slot).

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Originally Posted by RemVye

Gj Noctis.

Q: Will they be releasing any new materia during 1.21? (e.g. Job specific materia, trait enhancing materia, anything new at all?)

*I've seen a few pieces of materia on other sites that aren't in the game currently. Might make some of the current materia 'obsolete' and I'd hate to spend what little money I have only to need replacements later. *

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I knew i forgot something! I saw those materia as well that are not in game yet. Curious myself on the subject, and while I don't think it will be the case it's still worth asking if there may be job-specific materia.

I plan to update and reorganize the OP with questions in categories if there's a lot of input. Keep them coming guys!

Also give the OP a like if you want this topic to get more activity and attention quicker.

I actually just want more medals because I'm an attention whore.

I'm still a bit in a the dark at how exactly is the switching from class to job going to go. I think it would be cool if crafters could make JSE (Not the official colors). Something along the lines of just lvl up gear until you can get your AF I suppose...

This is just my conjecture but I think switching to Jobs will be like advanced classes in other MMOs, or (lol) evolution in Pokemon, basically you advance your current class into a job, like Lancer > Dragoon, and that's it, your Lancer is permanently a dragoon without a way of switching it back to Lancer. on the other hand it might be possible that each job will have its own unique weapon so that each job will essentially be a new class, though it might make an already cluttered system even more convoluted.

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Originally Posted by Zeref

This is just my conjecture but I think switching to Jobs will be like advanced classes in other MMOs, or (lol) evolution in Pokemon, basically you advance your current class into a job, like Lancer > Dragoon, and that's it, your Lancer is permanently a dragoon without a way of switching it back to Lancer. on the other hand it might be possible that each job will have its own unique weapon so that each job will essentially be a new class, though it might make an already cluttered system even more convoluted.

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That much I believe is known and has been known for a while that jobs will coexist with classes, however it will work as another layer of the Armoury system. They're more like specializations with party play in mind. I liken them to declaring what role you will be playing in the party. So there will be switching back and forth.

Furthermore as mentioned already the use of a Jobs Stone was mentioned in an interview if I remember correctly. Somehow this item would allow one to switch to the job it is connected to (ie. Paladin Stone, Monk Stone). That's basically all that was disclosed regarding switching and it's been a while since they mentioned that and also haven't given any details as to the process.

Until recently I'm sure a lot of the silence was due to most of the mechanics being in the development stage as concepts. Now that we're approaching the date of 1.21 I'm sure a lot of the mechanics are at least conceptually finalized and either are being developed or tested.

I don't expect information right away, or even soon, but I do want to get their attention and hope they understand that by providing some details in advance it could really help lessen the shock effect of the massive change the job system will bring to endgame full party play, especially in terms of gear.

If jobs were just bonuses there would be no need to switch back, but since they come with constraints, they decided to let players switch back and forth

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Originally Posted by northernsky

If jobs were just bonuses there would be no need to switch back, but since they come with constraints, they decided to let players switch back and forth

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Yup I believe the idea was Jobs would be very much Full Party focused and dependent on the support of other players. Classes on the other hand would be superior in solo and Light Party scenarios where each given player is expected to be proficient in a number of areas.

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Originally Posted by RemVye

The preview Yoshi gave was the "Job Stone" an item you would equip to transform into that job. I can see another slot being added to our equipment screen (similar to arrow / throwing weapon slot) that acts as a "stone holder" or "rune slot". Once you have acquired your job stone you can just equip / un-equip via the equipment screen > rune slot.

That's the way I have it envisioned in my head. I believe this is a logical assumption since we manage all our class changes via the equipment screen (weapon slot).

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This is my line of thinking. heck they may not even have to add any equipment slots. The "Pack" slot to my knowledge is pretty much useless. some one correct me if i am wrong though.

As far as cross classed ability it has been my theory that the method they will use to "Reduce" the amount useable will be simply to cut the allowed amount down to 5 at 50. those slots being taken up by the job stuff. The only question remaining at that point would they impose further restrictions on what skills you would be able to slot in or not.

The more i think about it the more these "Job stones" become a very elegant method of doing what they want.

The question how would a paladin have more defense then a gladiator becomes blindingly obvious. When you postulate that said stones would do the stat modifications by the simple act of equipping them. The pld stone could simply have +x% mp, -x% hp, +x% def, +x% h.pot for example.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

I never stated anything as a fact. This is all from what I have read in Dev posts and interviews. And I believe I said on the second one that it was a speculation.

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I know.. I wasn't being confrontational... just conversational.. maybe.. i don't even know

I don't think Steve has done much since he, well...