Not again...

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Originally Posted by MahoSenshi

Please stop. You didn't suffer through all of 3.x Savage. Oh wait, you didn't suffer through Savage at all. And its the only content that matters anyway.
Dunno about kicking PLD out of meta but WAR definitely going to have guaranteed spot again and this is bad design. Just as bad as having them kicked out.

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What do I have to do to make this forum not take things literally. I even added a /s to indicate sarcasm.

First of all, I didn't think PLD needed nerfs. But to use an argument put forth by PLD players as to why WAR deserved its nerfs and was fine, maybe dps isn't everything.

I'm starting to wonder if Yoshi's master plan isn't to pit us all against eachother in some eldritch cage-match. Every patch is a slap in the face for one tank, a let-down for another, and cause for celebration for another.

WARs are crying tears of joy,
DRKs are ._.
PLDs are getting nerfed a month after getting buffs they were owed for 2 years.

I think they want us to kill eachother.

So, I can throw Unchained and Steel Cyclone back off my hotbar

Glad to see the Path mention though,

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Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark

I'm starting to wonder if Yoshi's master plan isn't to pit us all against eachother in some eldritch cage-match. Every patch is a slap in the face for one tank, a let-down for another, and cause for celebration for another.

WARs are crying tears of joy,
DRKs are ._.
PLDs are getting nerfed a month after getting buffs they were owed for 2 years.

I think they want us to kill eachother.

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After reading your posts though I feel like DRK's problems aside from damage is a literal issue with how the entire class is balanced around TBN.

The question is, will that issue ever be fixed? (maybe give us blood naturally on any combo? I don't know)

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Originally Posted by Remiilia-vermilion

So some ppl are crying over a single nerf that isn't even known what it is yet and how will it affect pld, but no, war should've stayed as it was right? That was balance in your opinion right?

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Whoa, how bout you take your foot of the gas of your catty-mobile and relax bud.

Look around the forum right now. Some people are happy some aren't. That's literally all my post was saying lol.

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Originally Posted by MahoSenshi

Please stop. You didnt suffer through all of 3.x Savage. Oh wait, you didnt suffer through Savage at all.

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Well as someone who has done savage I would not expect for you to have that level of ignorance. Pld was out of the meta because of the meta itself not the class. You needed a nin, they didnt want to do slashing, war did. You didnt want a mnk so you needed a drk for it down, so you didn't bring pld. Pld didnt do well on magic encounters, now it does. Damage was never a problem and it was often argued in prog if it was worth it to take a pld because design veil and clemency are great for prog but it just wasnt the best choice. All that has changed pld will be mandatory fror prog and always have a place because the can do really well on any fight now and third utility is bar none the best. No good pld from 3.x ever wanted more damage, they wanted to be viable, now they are. So stop crying about it when there is no issue at all.

They shouldnt touch plds speed. The timing between the holy spirits with rq buff and putting up another goring blade run smoothly together. Changing the speed will make pld clunky

The thing is is that its kinda crappy for everyone. If they didn't nerf PLD they could have reasonably made more exciting buffs to DRK/WAR. But it appears they're giving mostly meh buffs to the latter two and making up the difference with a slight nerf to PLD. =/

Guess we'll see on Tuesday.

Ok,so really the nerf means PLD will be doing 4 HS in the requiescat window instead of all 5... it's really minor and PLD still keeps their over the top utility and no real downside.

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Originally Posted by Pence

But you can't just keep buffing everyone........then you need to adjust all content because the average DPS is higher, etc etc etc. It's much, much easier to bring a job down then bring everyone else up

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Might be my imagination, but I feel they nerfed classes and raised enemy Hit points. I wouldn't mind the HP raise if DPS skills got more powerful as well. It's a slight slog killing 3-4 mobs. But when many tanks pull 5-10 enemies fights take way too long imo.