Just to clear some things up about the new DRK

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Originally Posted by Jimsvaliant

Quietus and DP still need to be looked at for sure but the pre-launch vitriol over ability descriptions was so volatile.

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Quietus feels pretty ok to me so far. With Blood Price being more a Blood Gauge generator than one for MP now, a decently sized pack is giving me one every few Abyssal Drains/Unleashes. Can't say I often find the MP to Dark Arts it, that being better served on said MP AoEs or The Blackest Night, but that's about it for complaints. Sharing the Grit ignoring bonuses that Bloodspiller has would be a welcome perk though.
Dark Passenger definitely needs to go back to the old MP cost though. The Blind is absolutely lovely now that things actually hurt, but nearly 50% of max MP to do it is rather harsh.

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Originally Posted by EusisLandale

Quietus feels pretty ok to me so far. With Blood Price being more a Blood Gauge generator than one for MP now, a decently sized pack is giving me one every few Abyssal Drains/Unleashes. Can't say I often find the MP to Dark Arts it, that being better served on said MP AoEs or The Blackest Night, but that's about it for complaints. Sharing the Grit ignoring bonuses that Bloodspiller has would be a welcome perk though.
Dark Passenger definitely needs to go back to the old MP cost though. The Blind is absolutely lovely now that it actually works on things much more consistently, but nearly 50% of max MP to do it is rather harsh.

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I've been throwing up TBN and BP before pulls and I can stack 100 blood in no time at all, but after 2-3 abyssal drains I just do two non-DA quietus for fear of running out of mana. As you said, blowing half an MP bar on DA DP is wasted. DRK single target is so so good but I cant stand doing trash atm.

Yes, the Dark Passenger nerf is complete shit. It means using it any situation is a DPS loss, unless its right before a boss/pack dies.

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Originally Posted by Falar

Yes, the Dark Passenger nerf is complete shit. It means using it any situation is a DPS loss, unless its right before a boss/pack dies.

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Only purpose seems to be a desperation mitigation cooldown if blind works on a group of enemies otherwise it will sit there.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Only purpose seems to be a desperation mitigation cooldown if blind works on a group of enemies otherwise it will sit there.

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I had it off my hotbars for a while but just put it back.

How come people bring up the changes to BW's recast time as if it was a buff? sure, it was 60 seconds in HW, but you also recieved a trait that made its recast time 40 seconds anyways. UPtime on BW, outside of delirium extension, hasn't changed.

DP blind should be standard (double or triple CD dont care) and much bigger potency increase with DA

The changes were bad. I wanted the DRK to receive the new skills but without the removal of the other skills, it would be great. I didn't get why the removal of the other skills was necessary, they are not that hard to master and doesn't brings up or down the complexity of the class.

the problem with your logic about combo complexity is that you still had more to track thanks to scourge, reprisal, low blow procs and delirium debuff/mp gain vs when you could SE on top of all the mechanics. It really wasn't the hardest thing in the world, but adding it all up ramped up the difficulty still (regardless of if you want to all it braindead or not). I'd say its a valid complaint honestly. Yeah your main goal was always DA SE, but you still couldn't just do that all the time, so you had multiple combos to branch off of. Its not the same at all since you had to be more aware. Especially with the loss of DP for single target rotations and that dark side doesn't drain anymore.

not saying 4.0 dark is a joke or less fun. I'm just confused to your counterpoints.

honestly the one change that bothers me the most was the loss of so many defensive cool downs i mean don't tanks kind of need those?