SAM out classing all other DPS

They have a slashing debuff which helps nin, drk, pld, and war.

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Originally Posted by BelraugFire

They have a slashing debuff which helps nin.

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A slashing debuff that NIN naturally applies in the 4.0 rotation with 0 DPS loss. Remember, I said EXCLUSIVE to SAM. WAR/NIN/SAM all apply slashing resist down in their main rotations.

Try again.

So what you mean to say is that the sam rotation is just as long as wars, gotcha. The fact you keep insisting that no one else as has to worry about when to pop certain cool-downs is baffling. So when a drg has to worry about a jump skill getting them killed in a aoe, thats not the same, or when a nin has nail a mantra to keep their damage up while dodging, thats not the same either? You make it sound like a sam is played in a completely different manner from anything else. Guess what its not. Your argument is invalid, calmed down.

Oh really? Do you have it to 70? have you played its full rotation? If not, then go level it and then say its easy. the SAM finishers have cast times. You can't get them off while moving.

Also, the emnity list means nothing. you could have a bunch of bad dps, or you could be a bad tank. We don't know.

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Originally Posted by BelraugFire

The fact you keep insisting that no one else as has to worry about when to pop certain cool-downs is baffling.

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Who said this?

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Originally Posted by BelraugFire

So when a drg has to worry about a jump skill getting them killed in a aoe, thats not the same

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Yes, killing yourself due to using a skill wrong is not the same as having to manage cooldowns.

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Originally Posted by BelraugFire

when a nin has nail a mantra to keep their damage up while dodging, thats not the same either?

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I assume you mean Mudras, not Mantra, but you do know NIN can execute their mudras while moving, right?

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Originally Posted by BelraugFire

You make it sound like a sam is played in a completely different manner from anything else. Guess what its not.

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It's almost like it is.

Does SAM play like SMN? MCH? MNK?

SAM plays like SAM.

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Originally Posted by BelraugFire

Your argument is invalid, calmed down.

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Usually said by people when their argument is lacking.

good job everyone else bad. hope they dont roast you for that. As for me being a good tank, thats up to the people in the party, not some one who has never played with me.

I will be leveling it up soon, but doesnt mean its not easy. Im mean if you think its hard, then maybe its you.

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Originally Posted by BelraugFire

good job everyone else bad. hope they dont roast you for that. As for me being a good tank, thats up to the people in the party, not some one who has never played with me.

I will be leveling it up soon, but doesnt mean its not easy. Im mean if you think its hard, then maybe its you.

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Oh I dont think its hard, but then, I've always had a knack for melee jobs. But the fact you think the rotation is not complex means you won't be able to bring out the jobs fullest potential.

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Originally Posted by BelraugFire

So what you mean to say is that the sam rotation is just as long as wars, gotcha. The fact you keep insisting that no one else as has to worry about when to pop certain cool-downs is baffling. So when a drg has to worry about a jump skill getting them killed in a aoe, thats not the same, or when a nin has nail a mantra to keep their damage up while dodging, thats not the same either? You make it sound like a sam is played in a completely different manner from anything else. Guess what its not. Your argument is invalid, calmed down.

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I never mentioned anywhere anything about other jobs not having to worry about managing cooldowns or when and when not to use abilities. You made a baseless claim based on not experience or knowledge, but conjecture that samurai dps has a easy rotation, is op and needs to be nerfed and then went on to further prove that you have no idea how a samurai plays by making the claim that their entire rotation is similiar to warrior and that all they have to do is 3 combos and their finisher, which is wrong. Also, telling people that their arguments are invalid isn't doing anything to help your case when all the information you are giving is incorrect. You have zero experience playing the job which is completely obvious from everything you've said in this thread and you were called out on it and proven wrong by people who play and have experience with the job.

i like that meme yo. It didnt start out as a troll, it only turned into that since they wanted to attack me instead of considering the view i was trying to make. I am not alone in think that sam is just a little OP. Balancing is need.

1. I know how to debate, the way you brought your argument to the table had hostility in it, so you need to learn what a civil debate is. 2. When you and others started questioning my skill as a player, that is called an attack, learn the difference. 3. Your argument is not justified cause there is another class similar to it (mnk) that did not have the ridiculous damage output that you claim sam needs. 4. Pro tip, Admitting that i purposely wanted to make you angry because you have no reasonable argument does not de-legitimize my point, it proves it by how angry you got to defend the class rather than call out its faults. 5. I do accept the fact you dont agree and to further prove that you are attacking me, you have sought fit to insult my intelligence by claiming your side is the reasonable side, that i cant listen, and that i cant have a civil debate. I wish for you to have a good day and in the future refrain from attacking people because they see differently than you.