Please do something about mentor roulette instant-leaves

The DF as a whole has been needing a complete systemic overhaul anyway. Resorting to penalties because they, our mighty devs, can't come up with ways to let players manually bring in replacements mid-dungeon is one of the lamest things in this game.

Maybe they could give us 1-2 dungeons/trials per expansion to simply lock out from our roulette it will lower the amount of immediate leaving at the beginning. If they wanted to get vindictive they could have the system make note of someone leaving immediately and on the next roulette attempt they get put right back in there until they finish the run, this includes kicks. I can understand the frustration, but some people are just going to eat the penalty regardless if it's something they really don't enjoy.

I don't really check the official forums much anymore, but no matter how much time has passed, whenever I check back people are still complaining about mentors.

Nobody mentions bad mentors in game, nobody mentions bad mentors on Reddit, nobody does on twitter or any of the facebook communities I'm in, but here in these forums people can't shut up about them. It's fascinating, really.

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Originally Posted by zeopower6

This has been an issue for about a year now. People who don't get dungeons or whatever that they want so they leave new players who queue for their dungeons normally. What's worse it's usually the tank or healer too.

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This has been a problem since we have roulettes - mentor or not people will leave when they get a dungeon they dont like; healers and tanks probably even more likely too because they'll get their insta-queue again. Please dont pretend that this a mentor-issue or that the problem lies within the mentor-system (as good or bad that might be in general) when the "problem" here is simply that of roulettes and people not wanting to deal with the cards they've been dealt. This constant mentor blaming is slowly becoming nothing more than a meme...

The problem that need to be adressed here is not mentors leaving (roulette)-duties but people leaving them.
A solution could be the loss of the roulette-bonus for that day if you leave the dungeon before the timer runs out or the duty is completed (on top of the penalty).

But honestly: Is this really such a frequent problem that it would need adressing? I'm asking because I cant recall the last time someone left right at the start of a duty because "Oh no, not this dungeon again!"
I'm not saying its not happening at all - and ofc it sucks if it just happend to you, but if out of 100 runs 99 go fine (or at least without this happening) and one doesnt, does that really mean that something needs to be fixed?

If they land in a dungeon they don't want to do, you can't force them to stay.

How can they force the player to do a dungeon they don't want to do? are you sure you thought your thread through?

Nothing can force a player to do content they do not want to do. I though that would be obvious.

There is a few dungeons I auto leave as well because they aren't worth my time, I would rather crafter or gather and wait for my penalty to clear.

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Originally Posted by Adventica6

If they land in a dungeon they don't want to do, you can't force them to stay.

How can they force the player to do a dungeon they don't want to do? are you sure you thought your thread through?

Nothing can force a player to do content they do not want to do. I though that would be obvious.

There is a few dungeons I auto leave as well because they aren't worth my time, I would rather crafter or gather and wait for my penalty to clear.

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Then don't use a tool to que for a random dungeon. You are rolling the dice and you should deal with any result you get. Anyway, for Mentor's Roulette what I would do is to hit that achievement for the mount with a -1 to the total count.

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Originally Posted by worldofneil

They'd already get a penalty if they left the duty, realistically what else do you want them to do? If they were actually there as part of mentor roulette (you don't know for sure) then maybe the leave option should be removed for that particular roulette, but I can see that being abused/people refusing to do whatever until kicked (but at least you could report for non-participation then).

At the end of the day though, leaving a duty someone doesn't like is something both mentors AND non-mentors do.



We do already have the novice network for general help though :)

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Originally Posted by HELLruler

If a mentor queues for the mentor roulette, there's no excuse for leaving. Don't like the dungeon? Don't queue for roulettes. Bad players? Help them out, that's why you are a mentor

There should be a severe penalty for mentors leaving mentor roulette since they are abandoning players that could need his help. I'd say getting locked from that roulette until next daily reset should be enough

What if you had to leave, like a real life emergency happened? In that case, I doubt you would be worried about not being able to do a roulette that gives little bonuses

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I could consider...

If someone queues into mentor roulette not allowing them to leave, or vastly increase the penalty for leaving, perhaps even applying a penalty if they are kicked. (Though I see possible problems with that...)

But, when queuing up for the mentor roulette, there is a Pop up confirmation stating what is expected of them, and reaffirming these increased penalties and restrictions...

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Originally Posted by Vidu

But honestly: Is this really such a frequent problem that it would need adressing? I'm asking because I cant recall the last time someone left right at the start of a duty because "Oh no, not this dungeon again!"
I'm not saying its not happening at all - and ofc it sucks if it just happend to you, but if out of 100 runs 99 go fine (or at least without this happening) and one doesnt, does that really mean that something needs to be fixed?

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It happens enough I think SE should make some sort of "contract" laying out expectations regarding mentor behavior in genreral and enforcing them. Although, in my personal experience it seems to happen in trials much more frequently. Most parties are decent parties, but then you can always get streaks of bad manner players.

I'd rather they leave and take the penalty than fact disconnect and so that they'd get kicked without penalty.

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Originally Posted by Vnolan

... less mentors, which would mean less people to fill queues, which is the point of the roulette.

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Filling queues is the point of the Leveling Roulette. But the point of Mentor Roulette is to have more of the people in duties be those who are willing to actively help mentor anyone needing it.