Issues with some zones and aethertes, please do not repeat this in SB

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

You only have as much time to get to the hunts as you do because they're so far away. It's Balmung. The hunts get pulled by people who pull as soon as they show up. The faster they show up, the less time you have to get there as well. That's why it's important to be in good hunt linkshells and drop everything you're doing to get to the hunt.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

I think the faster adn easiest solution for overpopulated servers like Balmung is increase the re-appearance rate of the fates.

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I would add, and this is something SE should be concerned about that it's not so bad to respond quickly when you have an SSD but I've had someone in my group teleport /with/ me and not make it to the hunt while I did because ps3 load difference. That like 10 second difference on Balmung lol.

For some, depending on the popularity fo the content at that time, it's possible they can't be part of that content - it's just not possible for them to get there before it vaporizes xD. (Ofc there are people who check their retainers, do a few beastmen quests, water their garden, and then teleport there and are upset it's dead- but I'm not focusing on those sort of people :P)

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Originally Posted by Shougun

For some, depending on the popularity fo the content at that time, it's possible they can't be part of that content - it's just not possible for them to get there before it vaporizes xD.

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Well this might sound like a crazy idea but if you really want/need a hunt you could search for it yourself instead of waiting for someone to shout it's position.

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Originally Posted by Silica-chan

Well this might sound like a crazy idea but if you really want/need a hunt you could search for it yourself instead of waiting for someone to shout it's position.

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WITH the assumption of loading issues that during peak time they can't be part of the train, the rate of your suggestion is hilariously different. Like miles of difference. Although without the loading issues or outside of peak time then yes, this would be preferable as it helps everyone.

So yes, it's a crazy idea (given the presuppositions I made to the issue I then followed), it's still rather pointless in comparison to the rate of being part of the hunt train. If we buck the assumptions (unfocusing on those who can't load quickly) then less of an issue, yes.

Perhaps you can argue that one once in a while is still fine (something better than nothing), but imo at least given the difference between train or no train it's a waste of time unless you have no other possible progression tool. Because Balmung's train is that powerful and that fast (when the content is releveant, things are better during the luls).

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I would add, and this is something SE should be concerned about that it's not so bad to respond quickly when you have an SSD but I've had someone in my group teleport /with/ me and not make it to the hunt while I did because ps3 load difference. That like 10 second difference on Balmung lol.

For some, depending on the popularity fo the content at that time, it's possible they can't be part of that content - it's just not possible for them to get there before it vaporizes xD. (Ofc there are people who check their retainers, do a few beastmen quests, water their garden, and then teleport there and are upset it's dead- but I'm not focusing on those sort of people :P)

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I can 100% see that being a problem. Personally, I try to wait five minutes, but unless it's like 3 am, I am probably not the most impatient person there. We spawned Gandarewa earlier today and it lived all of about 1.5 minutes after I initially called it out. That's a bit faster than usual, but average time between first call and pull for S ranks is only about two minutes, which really doesn't afford people with slower loads much of a chance to get there.

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Originally Posted by Silica-chan

Well this might sound like a crazy idea but if you really want/need a hunt you could search for it yourself instead of waiting for someone to shout it's position.

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There are usually multiple hunts up and being actively searched for at any given time. You can't be in multiple zones simultaneously, so not making it to a hunt doesn't necessarily imply people are just chilling by an aetheryte waiting for other people to find stuff.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

I can 100% see that being a problem. Personally, I try to wait five minutes, but unless it's like 3 am, I am probably not the most impatient person there. We spawned Gandarewa earlier today and it lived all of about 1.5 minutes after I initially called it out. That's a bit faster than usual, but average time between first call and pull for S ranks is only about two minutes, which really doesn't afford people with slower loads much of a chance to get there.

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I'm worried that I "think" it got better only because it's not as needed, but at the moment I do think Balmung's hunt culture is fairly reasonable - the waiting is a good compromise and it's called out on like 8 different linkshells lol.

But I do remember the golden time when even S ranks died faster than a minute, and A ranks... haaah. Back when you didn't play normally so you could actually get credit for the hunt lol, enmity spamming ftw xD.

"More open world content! But don't make us schlep all the way out for it. Just, y'know, put it right outside town or something."

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I'm worried that I "think" it got better only because it's not as needed, but at the moment I do think Balmung's hunt culture is fairly reasonable - the waiting is a good compromise and it's called out on like 8 different linkshells lol.

But I do remember the golden time when even S ranks died faster than a minute, and A ranks... haaah. Back when you didn't play normally so you could actually get credit for the hunt lol, enmity spamming ftw xD.

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Well, I've only been on Balmung a couple of months, so I really have no basis for comparison. I guess I wouldn't be surprised if it died that quickly when people cared though, as turnout tends to be higher, especially for people who don't care the least bit about any sort of hunt culture or other hunters. I'll just have to rely on my SSD and making hunts my #1 priority for SB then.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

So you just want me to ignore people bringing up things unrelated and attacking me for no reason? I do not know why people are just focusing on fate/hunts and attacking me for being on some server, it effects gathering too. A lot of time is wasted when things pop in The Sea of Clouds, and too much time is wasted traveling when doing tribes for East Shroud/Outer La Noscea areas. These quests is a ton of back and forth, so teleporting helps it make it feel less painful

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Yes

Ignore people who bring unrelated points to your topic. Just say "that's unrelated" and move on.

You have trigger button that you need to deal with cuz you're a person that actually brings up good points but then people tend to not to take you seriously whenever you bring up your personal beef. It's not the first time you veiled a thread behind pvp chat.

Move on and stop getting triggered for nothing.

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Originally Posted by Nixxe

Well, I've only been on Balmung a couple of months, so I really have no basis for comparison. I guess I wouldn't be surprised if it died that quickly when people cared though, as turnout tends to be higher, especially for people who don't care the least bit about any sort of hunt culture or other hunters. I'll just have to rely on my SSD and making hunts my #1 priority for SB then.

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Ah, well IF it gets that bad and your rewards start to scale down its because the system is overloading. We had this issue a lot when stuff was most popular (you shouldn't have seen it in the last few months), like literally whole parties who were there the entire time (all 45 seconds lol) would get zero participation. It became apparent that the easiest way to get participation was to max out your enmity super fast, with healers dropping their regens like they were free lol.

It's actually a good strategy for FATEs too, since they use similar systems. I highly dissuade it if the system isn't overloading because.. being useless is not great, but if you're concerned about not getting gold then get in there and just drop piles of enmity everywhere.

I believe SE has made tweaks since /the worst/ periods, to make it easier - so some of the awesome times I remember might be non-repeatable, but you still get some absurdly fast moments sometimes. Like watching that one Odin like FATE in the HW area during peak hours, HP just got divided by zero lol.

Balmung when the content is no longer highly desired (new important progression) is actually pretty nice, like the Hunts right now have people but not way too many people but hope you're ready for the party this SB ^_^.

It's part of this above stuff and you addressed it a bit already but getting people more locations to teleport to means people there sooner, meaning it will die sooner. So I'm not entirely sure it will solve the problem, maybe just paint it a different color but be at the same tier of issue. Unfortunately I don't have an easy suggestion for such a content, since part of it just relies on people being reasonable to each other (not too fast, not too slow) - probably why I like open world content, that's just mine/my party lol.

Clearly the removal of PvP chat makes even the most insignificant of complaints valid and the dev team should listen to, and act on EVERY single one and how dare they if they don't because I am just so SALTY at the removal of PvP chat.