2nd STORMBLOOD Job revealed

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Originally Posted by Brightshadow

Well his sister was always a arcanist and out of nowhere she pulled a rapier. Out of hell book who says he won't pull a magical scimitar from his book? Actually if BLU is indeed our second new job I wonder what twist their weapons will bring. If they did it for RDM I doubt BLU would get a same old generic scimitar. Perhaps they will get gunblade scimitars?

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I have yet to do the Coils of Bahamut, so I don't know how accurate this is, but to my knowledge, we've never -seen- Alisae using her book like an Arcanist would. By contrast we have -seen- multiple times, Alphinaud summoning Carbuncles, Casting Ruin and Healing with Physick. Given that Louisoix gave the twins the books and said the true knowledge within would be unlocked when they used them together, I could possibly see a Blue Mage connection, but the sudden and drastic shift in class/job for Alphinaud would seem strange and maybe a little forced. Especially as Hoary Boulder has given us plenty of teasers about Blue Mage in his own training when he was off.

That and I'm not sure Blue Mage would suit Alphinaud. We don't know what the class is yet, but a long-ranged caster placing aether constructs between himself and harm's way certainly seems to fit Alphinaud as a character. He's a strategist, a chess master. Blue Mage would necessitate putting one's self in harms way just to learn.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

I have yet to do the Coils of Bahamut, so I don't know how accurate this is, but to my knowledge, we've never -seen- Alisae using her book like an Arcanist would. By contrast we have -seen- multiple times, Alphinaud summoning Carbuncles, Casting Ruin and Healing with Physick. Given that Louisoix gave the twins the books and said the true knowledge within would be unlocked when they used them together, I could possibly see a Blue Mage connection, but the sudden and drastic shift in class/job for Alphinaud would seem strange and maybe a little forced. Especially as Hoary Boulder has given us plenty of teasers about Blue Mage in his own training when he was off.

That and I'm not sure Blue Mage would suit Alphinaud. We don't know what the class is yet, but a long-ranged caster placing aether constructs between himself and harm's way certainly seems to fit Alphinaud as a character. He's a strategist, a chess master. Blue Mage would necessitate putting one's self in harms way just to learn.

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That's a mood point in this game characters change jobs all the time before ninja thancred was considered a bard or gladiator then out of no where he became a ninja. Before 3.0 the WOL was a warrior then he switched to dragoon. NPC like the players aren't locked to jobs forever there are hints that they can job change as well.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

Given that Louisoix gave the twins the books and said the true knowledge within would be unlocked when they used them together

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I can't disagree with that too much as we do see characters changing their job/class to a degree. Thancred used a single dagger in the 2.0 storytelling and switched to two daggers when Yugiri was involved. That strikes me less as a change of job and more as an evolution from one job to another. Alisae was a blank slate, holding an arcanists' tome, but never actually having used any arcanist spells or abilities (to my knowledge). The Warrior of Light isn't really an NPC at all, and derplander is a fill in and will use whatever job is themed appropriately for the next expansion.

Hoary Boulder was a Gladiator/Paladin, and if the speculation is true, became a Blue Mage. Given the melee nature of Blue Mages in past games, that training as a Gladiator would certainly give him the experience and skills to be a successful Blue Mage. By contrast, for a caster to become a melee class seems very forced.

I'm waiting to see what the next class is before assuming Alphinaud will even take a new class to begin with. There is some overlapping in the Scions right now, after all. Urianger is an Arcanist as is Alphinaud.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

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Except Daggers were in fact Gladiator weapons before Ninja came along and Thancred did in fact use Rampart, Fast Blade, Savage Blade and Rage of Halone all of which are Gladiator abilites.

And in past games Summoners were able to call upon the Summons themselves, do we have that in 14? I wouldn't say past games means things arnt subject to change. In fact I would say out of all the jobs Blue Mage would be the most flexible to fit into any playstyle, melee or magic user. Hell I mean Alphinaud isn't even guarenteed to be a ranged magic user indefinatly when new jobs get introduced.

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Originally Posted by Underdog2204

Except Daggers were in fact Gladiator weapons before Ninja came along and Thancred did in fact use Rampart, Fast Blade, Savage Blade and Rage of Halone all of which are Gladiator abilites.

And in past games Summoners were able to call upon the Summons themselves, do we have that in 14? I wouldn't say past games means things arnt subject to change. In fact I would say out of all the jobs Blue Mage would be the most flexible to fit into any playstyle, melee or magic user. Hell I mean Alphinaud isn't even guarenteed to be a ranged magic user indefinatly when new jobs get introduced.

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If we're talking 1.0, I never played. As far as I've known, One-handed Swords have been Gladiator Weapons. And sure, anything can change. I just think having Alphinaud go BLU would feel forced.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

If we're talking 1.0, I never played. As far as I've known, One-handed Swords have been Gladiator Weapons. And sure, anything can change. I just think having Alphinaud go BLU would feel forced.

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Nope Daggers were used by Gladiators all the way up until Ninja's release in 2.4.

You are presuming it would be without knowing anything about how it would work tbh though. Imo everything atm is pointing towards Blue Mage and there are leans towards Red and Blue. Who better than Alphinaud who's twin is Red?

Presuming something without any information is not a great argument as to why it's a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Underdog2204

Nope Daggers were used by Gladiators all the way up until Ninja's release in 2.4.

You are presuming it would be without knowing anything about how it would work tbh though. Imo everything atm is pointing towards Blue Mage and there are leans towards Red and Blue. Who better than Alphinaud who's twin is Red?

Presuming something without any information is not a great argument as to why it's a bad idea.

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Well, we -don't- know how BLU works yet =D Yet it seems unlikely (though not impossible) that SE would add a second Ranged DPS Caster Job to Stormblood.

I'm in the camp of thinking it'll be BLU next. I don't argue with anyone on that point. I can see how it would be other classes than BLU as well, but I think it'll be BLU. What I find hard to swallow is this idea that Alphinaud will be a Blue Mage, because Alisae appears to be a Red Mage. We've had no buildup at all to suggest Alphinaud will be a Blue Mage. It would feel completely out of left field. Perhaps over the course of Stormblood we could see this gradual growth, but at the moment it feels like it would be forced.

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Originally Posted by Vexander

Well, we -don't- know how BLU works yet =D Yet it seems unlikely (though not impossible) that SE would add a second Ranged DPS Caster Job to Stormblood.

I'm in the camp of thinking it'll be BLU next. I don't argue with anyone on that point. I can see how it would be other classes than BLU as well, but I think it'll be BLU. What I find hard to swallow is this idea that Alphinaud will be a Blue Mage, because Alisae appears to be a Red Mage. We've had no buildup at all to suggest Alphinaud will be a Blue Mage. It would feel completely out of left field. Perhaps over the course of Stormblood we could see this gradual growth, but at the moment it feels like it would be forced.

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Why would it need to be dps? :D

Blue Mage is flexible by it's nature, it could fill any role in the group without tarnishing what the job is. White Wind for example is a heal that Blue Mages have always had for the group, Mighty Guard boosts defense dramatically etc. It's not like a Black Mage ^^

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Originally Posted by Underdog2204

Why would it need to be dps? :D

Blue Mage is flexible by it's nature, it could fill any role in the group without tarnishing what the job is. White Wind for example is a heal that Blue Mages have always had for the group, Mighty Guard boosts defense dramatically etc. It's not like a Black Mage ^^

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I was working along the train of thought that Alphinaud would be a Blue Mage, and therefor the Class would suit his character's current existing combat style. Even if Thancred went from Gladiator to Ninja, that's still not that big of a change. Still a front line fighter. Alternatively, if BLU were a healer I think that'd suit Alphinaud fairly well. I just don't see him falling into the melee category, but BLU (from past FF games) seems to require melee range and even being hit at times. That's something Alphinaud has always avoided.

Granted FFXIV's BLU can be vastly different in acquiring skills, so all bets are off. I just don't think Alphinaud would match up well as a BLU given its past incarnations.