Your map grid system is chafing my legs

you sank my battleship!!! :mad:

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Originally Posted by captainpicard

I must say,

I am really surprised at how many people defend this grid schema used on the maps.

Location A-2 is very clear
Location 2-3 is not

I used X/Y verbiage in my original thread, but at no point that I am aware of does SE actually allude to this in the game. They make the assumption that you know.

I do know. I have always known. Knowing was never the point. There are people out there that don't know. There are people out there that are dyslexic. There are people out there that find this challenging.

Letter - Number takes any guess work out of it, and doesn't require prior knowledge of anything.

I think you all have a big hard on for a sub-standard grid schema. I still have not seen anyone provide a reason why using number - number is superior.

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(X,Y) is clear no matter where you're from. People have already pointed out numerous ways in which the letter system could potentially be confusing/unusable, whereas numbers are universal, as well as the Cartesian system.

You're just being whiny. In every thread you make, no less.

Map system is fine stop being ridiculous, it is nothing new at all nor is it hard to understand. By opening your map it even tells you your current coordinates so you can very easily follow through to find your destination just from that info by scrolling the map.

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Originally Posted by Answa

(X,Y) is clear no matter where you're from. People have already pointed out numerous ways in which the letter system could potentially be confusing/unusable, whereas numbers are universal, as well as the Cartesian system.

You're just being whiny. In every thread you make, no less.

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No, its actually not clear. You assume everyone in the game is educated, that may not be the case.

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

Reguardless, everytime someone says meet me at (3, 9) I have to verify which is which with them, because even is you are I are familiar with the system, it doesn't mean they are.

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Originally Posted by captainpicard

In FFXIV, some one, no doubt your star game designer, decided in that it made more sense to use a new system. X=Number, Y=Number.

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Gods forbid you ever need to use a map in real life then.

This isn't a NEW system, its a REAL system used on REAL maps in REAL life.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

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Easy way to remember:

X is a cross. (across)

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Originally Posted by Coglin

No, its actually not clear. You assume everyone in the game is educated, that may not be the case.

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

Reguardless, everytime someone says meet me at (3, 9) I have to verify which is which with them, because even is you are I are familiar with the system, it doesn't mean they are.

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It is very simple. If for some reason you forget something so basic and universal you just type in <pos> and then look at the map to see how the coords matched up.

If you still cannot get to that point, you can ask someone how it works. It's a game full of other players you know. That's the beauty of it.

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Originally Posted by Coglin

No, its actually not clear. You assume everyone in the game is educated, that may not be the case.

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

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What a wonderful opportunity for the game to teach them something that also translates into real life. Learning the universal system for reading coordinates. This will save them potential embarrassment in public of having to have it explained to them.

This game should be more educational I think. Like the new Pakistani Sesame Street, only for MMORPG players.

Uh, (X,Y) .. yeah.

Also, in a game with well designed worlds you wouldn't need to reference a coordinate grid because of visual references, similar to real life.

I believe Yoshi has stated that this is not possible because the new zones are more than 26 squares in both directions. He did however say that he will be making it so coordinates specify X and Y (X:33,Y:33)

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Originally Posted by Coglin

No, its actually not clear. You assume everyone in the game is educated, that may not be the case.

Those who have been taught this, may never have used it in years and may have forgoten. Some may simply not recal which is Horiontal axis and which is vertical axis?

Reguardless, everytime someone says meet me at (3, 9) I have to verify which is which with them, because even is you are I are familiar with the system, it doesn't mean they are.

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This game caters to 4 countries/regions, officially. In each one of those, cartesian coordinates are taught as part of one's elementary schools. This is not optional.

Coordinates don't use operators, it's not basing something out of multiplication, division, exponents, derivatives, integrals, nothing. They're not even decimals. It's two integers, pertaining to "x" and "y'. If you don't know which is which (by way of brain fart, hopefully) just move either of the four cardinal directions while viewing your map and see which number changes (it changes in real time, imagine that!).