This game lacks a good villain

Rowena is just biding her time you know.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Garlemald isn't 'evil'. It's morally grey - like pretty much every antagonist in the game bar a select few.

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Tell that to the poor highlanders living in tents right now

I was actually thinking about this today, FFXIV villains are "literally who?" but being an MMO I guess they do need to change things up.
XIV had Bahamut I guess? That's something. Even Chaos/Garland from the very first game is memorable.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Garlemald isn't 'evil'. It's morally grey - like pretty much every antagonist in the game bar a select few.

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They ARE evil, at least the royal family and the military, they literally want to genocide a whole continent to get rid of what they think is an "infection". But there are some "better guys" than others, for example Gaius was much more "nice" about it. Imagine the empire winning at the preatorium, Gaius with Ultima, he, as the "nicest" of the empire, would have probably just wiped all the beast tribes, gridanians (elemental worshipers), probably all "renowed" families, all Ala Mhigan and Othard refugees, and a bunch other "minorities" to have this bring new and "cleansed" (his actual words btw!) Eorzea... And he is the cool guy.

But I thought all relic weapon npcs are memorable villains... 3.0 relic villain is not nearly as fun tho, just boring.
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I'd like to see Urianger complete the villain turn. He's serving as a double agent, at least that's what I'm thinking. He would fit right in with some of the other games main baddies. He's incredibly powerful, he hid the waking sands after all, plus he has knowledge of the primals, he is a Ascian, I'm sure by now he has studied the WoL enough to know how to beat us AND he's a Arcanist, there is no telling what summon they could give him if they turned him evil.

The problem is.. we have a good villain for awhile.. but then we kill them.. It doesn't work as easy as a singleplayer story where you play through it and then its done.. FFXIV keeps expanding.. so to have an ultimate villain would get pretty annoying alluding us for.. years without us killing them.. Theres still.... the warrior of darkness....

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Originally Posted by Cabalabob

We may not have some super villain like sephiroth or kefka but that doesn't really work in a constantly evolving game. Closest thing would be the Ascians for now as they are our primary enemy that we are trying to stop and the ones causing all the problems we face like teaching everyone and their mother how to summon a primal. As for some kind of rival character, I think Gaius fills that spot just fine or the warrior of darkness, I could see them appearing in dissidia.

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Originally Posted by Blacksail

The problem is.. we have a good villain for awhile.. but then we kill them.. It doesn't work as easy as a singleplayer story where you play through it and then its done.. FFXIV keeps expanding.. so to have an ultimate villain would get pretty annoying alluding us for.. years without us killing them.. Theres still.... the warrior of darkness....

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All this, pretty much. The storyline works better with its current shades-of-grey antagonists, a genuine out-and-out big-bad would be damaging in the long run because either we'd never defeat them, which would make them less impressive and more annoying, or we would and everything that came after would be "meh", or we'd have DBZ-style Villain Escalation Syndrome.

I donno how ffxi did it (been so long) but the shadow lord and the duke of juneo were amazing characters. Plus the COP boy. Again silly I can't remember their names but again... Been so long

But I think the villains in FFXIV are great...