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You can actually still maintain aggro lead without tank stance. It's just harder to do for now. However, if you pull it off, you can still do way better dps. For every combo, you get 50x3 potency from Sword Oath, even if you spam Halone ((150+200+260pot) x 100% mod + 150pot from Sword Oath = 760) combo way more often, it's still better than be in Shield Oath and spam Royal Authority ((150+200+350pot) x 85% mod = 595). And those numbers aren't including autos yet + multipliers from FoF and other buffs/debuffs.

Note: excluding Goring Blade combo because it's still a priority to put it up no matter what.

Lol, if that makes blood weapon useless, then I'm the Pope. BW can and should still be used for any OT situations, skill speed increase and mana regen per every attack for more Dark Arts.

Actually that's true. Not sure why I was only thinking about MT.

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Originally Posted by MrsFluffyButt

Lol, if that makes blood weapon useless, then I'm the Pope.

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BLESS MY CHILDREN

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Originally Posted by koroko220

Quelling is on a ridiculously long cd. And dragoon has the backflip that halves their current enmity like shroud for whm.

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Actually, all of Dragoon's jumps are enmity dumps; There's a high chance a DRG will be killed after a jump, reducing enmity to zero.

Would say i still struggle as a PLD in SwO with very good DPS. as in i can't try to pump out constant DPS rotations.
With Shield Oath however its still easy peasy as it always was:P

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Originally Posted by Ragology

Actually, all of Dragoon's jumps are enmity dumps; There's a high chance a DRG will be killed after a jump, reducing enmity to zero.

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Somebody give this man an internet.

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Originally Posted by Ciri_Wolf

So haven't played new patch yet. I never really cared about damage as much, but was wondering what the differences are in holding hate now. Are they the same or harder? Also, is the content adjusted for the lower DPS?

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The gap between tank stance/dps stance enmity generation is greater. While the current potency changes to the Paladin are known, the changes to Savage Blade's and the Tank stances' enmity multipliers are currently unknown (speculation puts the tank stance multipliers at x3).

From what I can tell, it is easier to hold enmity in tank stance (as a 3.2 Vit Paladin would be generating ~140% the enmity a 3.1 Str Paladin was if the new stance multiplier is x3), but harder to hold enmity in dps stance (90% the damage dealt from the damage calc changes).

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Originally Posted by Blitzace

With Shield Oath however its still easy peasy as it always was:P

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I'd even say easier than before.
I've just done the Antitower for MSQ, and I manage to keep aggro on a BLM and a DRG (Better geared than me) with almost no RoH.

I felt like a DRK, avoiding the enmity combo as much as I could :p

Alright now i can add an experience. I did antitower on my warr yesterday. It feel like I had to work harder to keep aggro. 203 warr vs 210+ drg and blm. It wasn't too bad until they split dps and each attacked a target with single target rotations. It was quite hard to keep up with both. I feel had str not changed it would have been much easier. (I also have a 210 weapon). I was definitely overpower aandflash spamming more than usual.