A3s Solo Tank \o/ [Lich][DSIS]

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Originally Posted by ScarletDawn

Well faith in the community has slipped quite a bit since certain threads have popped up. Mainly ones the have a dig at us healers but hey cant stop those ill just ignore the healer sections... Yes i know turn 5 and turn 9 didnt challenge us in any way to require 2 tanks, but A3s seems more ideal with at least the warrior, i mean having sunder on the drg really isnt ideal they could have a better skill to increase dps.

P.S On an offtopic note what was the Parser used? That looks alot better then the first one that popped up where you have to be in windowed mode.

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Uhh because it's fun to try out different things ? Like why are you so against this ? It doesn't have to be ideal they wanted to have fun and challenge themselves.

I think not a lot of people do things for fun anymore.

Well done you guys :)

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Originally Posted by ScarletDawn

Well faith in the community has slipped quite a bit since certain threads have popped up. Mainly ones the have a dig at us healers but hey cant stop those ill just ignore the healer sections... Yes i know turn 5 and turn 9 didnt challenge us in any way to require 2 tanks, but A3s seems more ideal with at least the warrior, i mean having sunder on the drg really isnt ideal they could have a better skill to increase dps.

P.S On an offtopic note what was the Parser used? That looks alot better then the first one that popped up where you have to be in windowed mode.

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Like I said, most people who are looking at this will understand A3S will most likely be optimally done with a standard setup of 2 tanks / 2 healers / 4 DPS and not a 1 tank / 2 healer / 5 DPS scenario. It was designed as a challenge and they completed it and wanted to show it off. Nothing more and nothing less. We need more people like the OP because people complain about challenge in this game and I imagine the vast majority of those people don't realize there are self-challenges they can impose to test the limits.

In terms of healer discussion, I imagine you're discussing the whole DPS-Healer dynamic. I won't get into it as I've talked that topic to death myself on various soapboxes but it'll always be a polarizing discussion in the game given the nature of game. Its best to try to ignore the stubborn stonewalls and talk with the people who are more open (even if they may disagree with you) since they won't be asinine or belligerent about it.

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Originally Posted by Sora-san

Uhh because it's fun to try out different things ? Like why are you so against this ? It doesn't have to be ideal they wanted to have fun and challenge themselves.

I think not a lot of people do things for fun anymore.

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Im not against it, just some raid groups on Lich can be pretty, well horrible about your class and raiding. Join the PF at your own peril this was my experience with Ast. No i commend the group for doing this out of the norm style raid, but im going to criticize the choice to go solo tank if it becomes the norm.

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Originally Posted by ScarletDawn

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This guy must be tons of fun in parties.

@OP great job on that fight, its very impressive the way you handled tanking the hands with the DRG.
Its really cool seeing this off-meta approach that can be very entertaining.

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Originally Posted by Brian_

Eh, couldn't the MNK live through the DPS add-phase tether? Fist of Earth + SS + Adlo + Apocatastasis + i210 left side with some VIT right sides.

In fact, I don't know why you used a DRG as the tank replacement and not MNK. The MNK also has MRD CC skills, has fists of earth, and doesn't have an enmity dump.

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Seeing as the tether kills tanks not using cool downs, I don't think a dps with 15-16K HP will survive with lower defense, hp, and mitigation. Which BTW answers the next question; DRG has higher base HP and higher defense on their gear, making them more suited to tank enemies using physical attacks. Although in this case, to keep aggro on the add the dragoon would be doing less dps than warrior so the efficacy of the method is called in to question...

nerf t9, it requires 3 "tanks" to complete


taking the hands in a3s is nothing different than grabbing the golems in t9 und noone would ever imagine to not call it solo tanking

Was about time some one did this, great job guys.next solo tank n heal? XD

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

Seeing as the tether kills tanks not using cool downs, I don't think a dps with 15-16K HP will survive with lower defense, hp, and mitigation. Which BTW answers the next question; DRG has higher base HP and higher defense on their gear, making them more suited to tank enemies using physical attacks. Although in this case, to keep aggro on the add the dragoon would be doing less dps than warrior so the efficacy of the method is called in to question...

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This was my whole point, sure its fun to try Solo tank, but we must remeber its not always the best way to do things, sometimes a warrior offtank is a lot better and now SE gave Warriors some decent DPS they can be a DPS/offtank just be stance switching, no need to bring 5 dps and a Pally..

As long as people remember that soloing fights is just for pure fun and should never be enforced like its law then everyone will be happy, its when its enforced like its a law then it becomes horrible.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

Seeing as the tether kills tanks not using cool downs, I don't think a dps with 15-16K HP will survive with lower defense, hp, and mitigation. Which BTW answers the next question; DRG has higher base HP and higher defense on their gear, making them more suited to tank enemies using physical attacks. Although in this case, to keep aggro on the add the dragoon would be doing less dps than warrior so the efficacy of the method is called in to question...

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Tanks can already take the tether with just an adlo and apocatastasis. If you throw in fists of earth and stoneskin with a few VIT right sides, I'd actually be surprised if the MNK didn't live through it.