Tanks

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Originally Posted by MihaelB

The most basic use of DRK with no tactical knowledge or skill is using Living Dead to node delay, being a defender and spamming skills such as Abyssal Drain to stay alive and delay the opponent from taking your node .

Once you know your rotations and have experience, you can expand to deal damage in fights but if you want to do damage, you might as well pick a DPS in my opinion.

They offer flying stuns and other nifty tricks but I feel jobs such as Paladin stun better and Warriors do more damage overall, their niche is living dead and disturbance AOE skills.

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Ah, it wasn't so much that I anticipated doing particularly nice damage, but I found it a lot more difficult than Paladin and I had trouble finding any avenue that compensated for the fact(other than node delay as you say, but I can do that on my Bard as well). It might have been partly down to not having the best equipment since I only even bothered trying it as DRK for the sake of some tomes, but I get the impression that it's not a class I would get the hang of very well in PvP when compared to Bard or Paladin.

Of course, I'm not passing this as any evidence of it being a lacklustre class in PvP, just not something I personally manage well with.

I had a match the other day where two DRKs started chasing me (WAR) I gave them what they wanted, a fight. Vengeance > Push Back. One DRK was already at half HP when I killed the first DRK but he ran away before I got to finish him off. Silly, silly DRKs.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

I had a match the other day where two DRKs started chasing me (WAR) I gave them what they wanted, a fight. Vengeance > Push Back. One DRK was already at half HP when I killed the first DRK but he ran away before I got to finish him off. Silly, silly DRKs.

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Yeah, I shake my head every time I watch people suicide by rapidly hitting a warrior with both of those buffs up. It happens every game!

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Originally Posted by xxczx

I had a match the other day where two DRKs started chasing me (WAR) I gave them what they wanted, a fight. Vengeance > Push Back. One DRK was already at half HP when I killed the first DRK but he ran away before I got to finish him off. Silly, silly DRKs.

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If they were smart they wouldve engaged you from range with Unmend until your buffs were down.

I don't understand people who attack when Push Back is up, I've run into clusters of melee with Shadow Wall, PB, BB and BP up and just spammed DA Abyssal Drain; Shadowskin+Grit for escaping, getting anywhere from 1~4 kills. PB alone is disgustingly powerful against stupidity, makes for a great punish.

Its sad seeing DRK misused, when they have a very potent burst setup at 60; options to make sure that people don't get away from them, and plenty of node defense potential for Seize.

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Originally Posted by Soular

Its sad seeing DRK misused, when they have a very potent burst setup at 60; options to make sure that people don't get away from them, and plenty of node defense potential for Seize.

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You pretty much nailed why I like DRK in PvP.

I don't understand why people are wasting their time attacking a Dark Knight lol. An annoying job to be sure but not very high in the threat/priority list of jobs. Only time I attack em is when they are AoE'ing the node or when they commit suicide by coming in too deep thinking they wont get stunned/heavy/holmgang before they can run back to their alliance.

Warrior is pretty OP one on one but that's precisely why I never go War to PVP. Its unbalance relative to the other jobs takes away from your ability to taunt ppl after you kill them (which i love to do) since its basically "Oh you killed me on warrior? Congratulations you know how to press your hotbar buttons." If you're a warrior you are supposed to be able to solo pretty much every other dps class anyway so whats there to celebrate after doing what ur supposed to do in the first place? Warriors that taunt after kills just look stupid.

I imagine that a lot people who haven't played tanks in PvP have yet to realise that their attacks are being reflected, the same way there's always someone attacking a healer using Attunement, a Paladin using Hallowed Ground or even a Dark Knight at 0 HP.


Also, isn't anyone killing anyone just a case of: "Oh you killed me? Congratulations you know how to press your hotbar buttons", haha.

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Originally Posted by Knahli

"Oh you killed me? Congratulations you know how to press your hotbar buttons"

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Certain jobs take more skill to use at optimum performance than others in there. That's why you hardly see great black mages for instance or whm. A stark contrast to warriors, smn, or ast. So yeah some killstreaks are more impressive than others lol.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Certain jobs take more skill to use at optimum performance than others in there. That's why you hardly see great black mages for instance or whm. A stark contrast to warriors, smn, or ast. So yeah some killstreaks are more impressive than others lol.

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Ahh, just don't mind me honestly, haha. I'm on the opposite side of the spectrum in that sense and I had just gotten out of a match where a teammate was emoting to an enemy that was caught off a little behind his retreating teammates. I feel bad that I can't really communicate a "Don't mind him" to people when I see that happening.... *laughs* ;;

(...Why do I even like PvP??)

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Originally Posted by Knahli

I had a lot of trouble with Dark Knight for the few games I played. I felt awfully squishy and with very little to offer to defend myself. I don't think it looked like I was even hitting particularly well either so I had a hard time finding it's use.

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Pop defensive cool downs preemptively, not when it's too late and you have the entire alliance beating on you.

I like to Plunge right onto an enemy SMN and burst them down then be an annoying to healers after. Of course there are plenty of other things that can be done, and sometimes better plays are available, but if you do just this until you figure out how to DRK you'll at least be moderately useful.

Don't forget Tar Pit in a nice tight pack of enemies is amazing.