The Xp and the PL problem are not "Fixed"

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Originally Posted by Ava

I think the age of grindfest MMORPGs is past. I think 1-50 is just fine, but when they increase the cap I hope the new levels take a lot more. like 49-50 is 100k, I'd expect 59-60 be something like 500k. Either that or slightly reduce the amount of exp players are getting from monsters and increase quest exp.

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500k exp under the current system is 5 hours of grinding roughly

which isnt too ba for a 59-60 grind

its pretty much what im getting at "if" they keep the current leveling scheme

there is no excuse for people to basicaly "start" at cap cuz its so easy to level and there is no real effort or time involved to do it

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Originally Posted by viion

I just joined Istory and got 1-50 in 4 days.

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I'm sorry but this is just wrong.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

500k exp under the current system is 5 hours of grinding roughly

which isnt too ba for a 59-60 grind

its pretty much what im getting at "if" they keep the current leveling scheme

there is no excuse for people to basicaly "start" at cap cuz its so easy to level and there is no real effort or time involved to do it

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Which is like 2-3 days to a casual player... Or if they stick to leves. 83 leves, say you can do 3 an hour thats 27 hours. spread across play times of about 3hours max almost 9 days for 1 level

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Originally Posted by Wynn

I'm sorry but this is just wrong.

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How is it wrong?

Is it wrong I can now enjoy the game?
Is it wrong I can now play with my friends?
Is it wrong I prefer this style?

Is it you just being jealous?

As if we don't have other more important problems, but ok, I'll bite.

Exponential leveling curves have time and again proven to be the worst thing you can do in an MMO. It creates huge problems for both casual players, the economy and even hardcore players.

Look at the current top level heavy economy with 90% of all items, crafts, gathering completely useless. You can see this right now in the Materia Market. No one gives a ... about grade I-III Materia. It's not worth to even put into armor because you outlevel your gear so fast. 30/40-50 however is extremely overpriced.

That is just one example, but it applies for the whole economy. Crafters at low level can't sell their stuff they level on because no one bothers. I can go on but i think you get the idea. It's BAD.

Linear progression is the only and best solution. It's easy to balance and easy to adjust. Linear means it takes 1h to level from 1-2 as well as to level from 49-50. (The 1h is an example).

@OP: If you correct your Post, please also correct your "would of" atrocity. It's "would have" for crying out loud!

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Originally Posted by viion

Which is like 2-3 days to a casual player... Or if they stick to leves. 83 leves, say you can do 3 an hour thats 27 hours. spread across play times of about 3hours max almost 9 days for 1 level


How is it wrong?

Is it wrong I can now enjoy the game?
Is it wrong I can now play with my friends?
Is it wrong I prefer this style?

Is it you just being jealous?

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Why would I be jealous? Come on, don't be like that. I will soon have a 50 of my own for battle and I leveled it the proper way for the most part until this uber xp was introduced lol. I'm not jealous. It's wrong because it isn't the target any game maker should have for their leveling curve. You don't allow someone to "beat the game" in 4 days. Yoshi has already said 4 months is a good target for cap. Not 4 days.

You must know, in the back of your mind, it's wrong to cap out in 4 days. As much as I'm sure you like it. I like cigarettes but fuck if they aren't going to kill me one day.

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Originally Posted by viion

Which is like 2-3 days to a casual player... Or if they stick to leves. 83 leves, say you can do 3 an hour thats 27 hours. spread across play times of about 3hours max almost 9 days for 1 level




How is it wrong?

Is it wrong I can now enjoy the game?
Is it wrong I can now play with my friends?
Is it wrong I prefer this style?

Is it you just being jealous?

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you cant judge speed based on the ammount of days it takes to reach
its all about time

you cant reward people for having "less" time to play, otherwise it shortens the life of stuff


5 hours is not long at all to reach the FINAL level of the game, thats the whole points, it the "final" level right
once you reach it, until they raise the cap, your done with whatever your on as far as leveling

so what if it takes some people a day and others 3-4 days to reach, 3-4 days of doing a small bit each day is more then reasonable to do it, its not like that makes it unattainable or unreasonable cuz it takes a few days of very little playtime to do

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Originally Posted by viion

I just joined Istory and got 1-50 in 4 days. This means I can now enjoy the game, I can play with my friends, I can go do Ifrit, I can have fun, because I havent had to do the same boring ass shit repeatedly over. I havent had to waste 2 months (Im casual) to level up.

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Can i ask what you leveled on because i can't even get a few levels a day atm at 22 pug

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Originally Posted by deathsite

Can i ask what you leveled on because i can't even get a few levels a day atm at 22 pug

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he grouped with others under the rediculous exp rates we have now(or he was power leveled the easier way pre patch)

you can get 100k an hour easily at ANY RANGE grouping with others right now

p/l is cheap period but its gona happen i made quite a bit of gil on xi becuase ppl wanted a rdm to pl them and wer willing to offer payment i never asked for it but i didnt refuse it ither its part of the game get over it

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Originally Posted by smokymcweed

p/l is cheap period but its gona happen i made quite a bit of gil on xi becuase ppl wanted a rdm to pl them and wer willing to offer payment i never asked for it but i didnt refuse it ither its part of the game get over it

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Yeah its part of the game but that doesn't mean the game should go balls deep and overdo it either.