Which healer to heal which tank?

Well, this certainly is an interesting topic.

Personally, I remember strats for Bismark EX that had healers responsible for one of the tanks during the sanuwa add phase. As an AST (in diurnal) I used to loath watching WARs and would avoid them if I had the option; their HP just tanked so much more rapidly than PLDs (and depending on how good they were, DRKs). It always seemed better to have SCHs focusing on them. Then again, this was before AST got their meaningful buff and felt like a handicapped healer to begin with, but WARs always felt like the tank I struggled the most on AST in diurnal to keep alive. Don't really notice it so much now.

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Originally Posted by Velox

In the end, the difference is negligible.

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The thread.
But really, you guys think too much on hps numbers. It also depends a lot besed on cds used and wich type of damage tanks will be taken contantly anyways.

The game is pretty balanced when it comes to tank healer relationships.

I don't think i've ever felt a difference.

Used to be SCH on WAR always. Got more milage out of old 25% lustrate and SCH mitigation helped make up for the WAR lack of mitigation in 2.x. Now its pretty much with heal how your raid group is comfortable. I still heal the WAR on my SCH in savage, deployed adlo from defiance WAR is <3, and i find it easier to recover a WAR from holmganging tank busters than the WHM (more frequent resources to do so without impacting mana too much).

I find the SCH burst healing capability better to handle a stance dancing WAR whilst also stance dancing myself as SCH. This is also factoring in the current meta of WHM/AST doeng the majority of raid healing with SCH heal/dps. SCH can spend more of its resources on WAR, leaving the WHM to handle PLD/DRK and rest of the raid.

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Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael

This is also factoring in the current meta of WHM/AST doeng the majority of raid healing with SCH heal/dps. SCH can spend more of its resources on WAR, leaving the WHM to handle PLD/DRK and rest of the raid.

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This is what I was thinking, but I'm terrible expressing myself. Resources are the name of the game when talking about healers.

WAR for me mostly, because that's the only tank job I play and understand a little. So I know healing them makes them take hits like a turtle.

Cool, well I stand pretty much corrected then. I would have assumed WHM to be a bit better for WAR, but I guess the consensus is opposite. I'll have to have our raid group switch it around once and see if if changes anything. Guess this is why I play tank and not healer lol.

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Originally Posted by karateorangutang

Cool, well I stand pretty much corrected then. I would have assumed WHM to be a bit better for WAR, but I guess the consensus is opposite. I'll have to have our raid group switch it around once and see if if changes anything. Guess this is why I play tank and not healer lol.

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If you really want to nitpick about the smallest things, for pure spell base it wouldn't matter.

Paladins take 20% less damage, theoretically increasing their durability by 25% - For clarity, if you'd only deal 80% damage of your original 100%, you'll need to deal an additional 20% damage to bridge the difference. 20% of 80% is 25%.
Warriors take the full brunt and receives 20% more healing, but storm's path included they also take 10% less damage. They also have more practical self healing capacity than Paladins, but less passive mitigation (shield block)

Effectively:
It doesn't matter much for White Mage which one to heal in this case.
For Scholars as well; Adloquium on a Paladin is more effective as paladins take less damage in Shield Oath. A warrior receives more healing and thus a bigger chunk of mitigation.

If we were to look beyond spell based healing:
Lustrate may be used more frequently by a scholar and is unaffected by Defiance. It also recovers a bigger percentage on a paladin compared to a warrior - If they both have the same gear, that is.
For just this, it makes more sense for Scholars to heal Paladins and White Mages to heal Warriors

There is another thing to consider, however:
Popular Warrior meta involves a near permanent Deliverance tanking style. This completely negates whatever was considered before. But if the Paladin (or Dark Knight for that matter) tanks in Sword Oath/off-Grit it balances it off again. Thus previous consideration applies once more.

Last thing to consider:
The scholar's healing kit is more expensive for it's potency (bar Physick) compared to a White Mage's or Astrologian's kit. Especially Adloquium (1060 MP) and Lustrate (You could argue that 1 stack's worth 884 MP). While they have the better MP recovery tool compared to the other healer, don't think their MP pool is bottomless. If they're expected to keep their own tank up and contribute damage, they'll run out of MP quicker than any healer. So this particular gem isn't too far off:

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Originally Posted by DarkerOrange

WHM heals both tanks, SCH DPSs :D haha.

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I have a question relating to PLD/DRK and damage shields of any kind: Is damage mitigation from tanking stances or from defensive abilities such as Rampart or Foresight applied before or after shield reduction?

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Originally Posted by Eisenhower

I have a question relating to PLD/DRK and damage shields of any kind: Is damage mitigation from tanking stances or from defensive abilities such as Rampart or Foresight applied before or after shield reduction?

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Pretty sure they're calculated one after another. Meaning: Whatever damage goes through one form of mitigation, that value will be treated as the absolute for the next. If it was additive you could even get healed at one point/