Sorry, but no tank should pure vit stack right side.

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Originally Posted by ArdorGrey

It's cool if you guys like the meat wall fantasy but too much vit is not only excessive, it also hurts your aggro gen. Dps shouldn't have to throttle dps just so you can keep your training wheels on.

I'm not saying everyone has to load up on pure str or pure melded, but pure vit is the worst kind of overkill.

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Even when I'm at 100% vitality, my pet blackmage has said that I'm the only tank she dares to go all-out on. Other tanks, she has to hold back. Sure, it might mean less DPS from my part (though the larger the group is, the more I benefit from Overpower), but it also means more DPS from the actual damage dealers (and healer, since Bloodbath+Unchained/Berserk+Bloodbath means I get a fairly decent self-heal). Would it work similarly well if I went all Strength? Probably (I'm usually comfortable around a 3+2 balance). Does it hurt the speed of the run? Not much, tbh.

Awwwwww yis, hopefully another 38 pages of salt filled goodness!

Sorry but you are, OP, by no right, tell us what we should or we should not. We play as how we want to play.

If we want to be bad, so be it.
If we want to get good and improve, we don't need you to tell what we should or should not.

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Originally Posted by Pooky_Pasha

Actually, it means you will not need to flash as often since flash will "hit harder." 5 Flashes (full VIT) = 3.93 Flashes (full STR) (so 4 Flashes + a little extra)

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Well I know what 27% increase means without you compare the digits themself. Thanks
But it is just stupid to drop just because of this VIT. I do not say STR is no good. I am just saying: There was never a situation I needed to use it. Maybe I am really one of the few tanks who are using flash within the rota?
My Job is to take aggro and help healer to support the group and myself. I am doing it better if I will survive 30secs longer then shorting the fight for 30secs. Cause wipe means wipe. STR is not helping here. VIT could help as healer could focus on other members as well.

And lets be honest: When did you ever wipe because Tank was not doing more dmg? I guess it was always: Tank was dead.

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Originally Posted by Lantia

WAnd lets be honest: When did you ever wipe because Tank was not doing more dmg? I guess it was always: Tank was dead.

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For me its more like, outside of living dead/holmgang, how often has your HP dropped so low that the VIT from you neckless kept you alive? Neckless + 1 ring? Etc.

If the VIT isn't used its a wasted stat. The extra damage is useful at least.

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Originally Posted by winsock

For me its more like, outside of living dead/holmgang, how often has your HP dropped so low that the VIT from you neckless kept you alive? Neckless + 1 ring? Etc.

If the VIT isn't used its a wasted stat. The extra damage is useful at least.

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Should I tell you the truth? I guess so: I stopped counting
I am that sort of a tank which is reviewing the fight after leaving the dungeon and I keep track on my HP and the status of the party.
The +150 HP from my neckless was often enough time to activate holy ground and increase healing on me instead of dying.
And as long as I have such a group once a week I will not use STR over VIT.
And here once again: I am not saying STR or DPS is stupid. I just say: Not thinking about worst case is stupid.

But now I would also like the truth from you:
Did you ever notice your STR is decreasing the spend time in a dungeon noticeable?

Of course there can be everything helpful and everything worth using it. But it is not a VIT Tanks fault if he feels much more comfortable with VIT.

omg another thread like that... Won't you people fucking understand that this debate is useless because the full VIT pros are never gonna accept the truth ? Stop creating new threads about things that are already being uselessly debated in old threads. Please.

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

omg another thread like that... Won't you people fucking understand that this debate is useless because the full VIT pros are never gonna accept the truth ? Stop creating new threads about things that are already being uselessly debated in old threads. Please.

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Yes, this debate is useless because the full STR pros are never gonna accept that other tanks are not them, and they can't dictate how other tanks should gear.

Yes, if you're running Alex Savage, maxing out tank DPS is necessary with current gear levels. If you're not, it's not required for the instance in question, and it's all a matter of the tank's own preferences.

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Originally Posted by Galgarion

If the dps can't pull threat off a vit tank, then it's less about you being good and more about them being bad.

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DPS can rarely if ever pull off me when I am in VIT gear. I would argue it's more of a bad tank.

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Originally Posted by Galgarion

If the dps can't pull threat off a vit tank, then it's less about you being good and more about them being bad.

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Or, you know, you're a tank and should be able to hold aggro no matter what? Hell, I went into an unsynched dungeon with my lv55 pld and held aggro from 2 lv60 DPS. Don't be a fear monger, if you are a good tank you're gonna keep aggro, don't start blaming a tank's skills on "bad DPS"