"Complex" game mechanics

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Originally Posted by adn

People struggle enough with "simple" mechanics already, I can only imagine the hilarity that would ensue if they added actually complex classes. I highly doubt a necromancer class would be a thing either, the next pet class we are likely to see is Beastmaster

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what u mean? drk so difficult to aggro! drk so complexity!

and i doubt there will be more pet classes, since SMN is one, and...yah...

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Originally Posted by Bishop81

Not really pinning for a necromancer class.

Just ... as I said, all SMN (and I think BLM) got for "mechanics" this expansion are stupid buffs on a timer - i.e. Aethertrail and Dreadwyrm Trance (and Enochainsomething). All those do is make you rush to squeeze in as many attacks as possible or stress you out about using a specific attack within the time limit. Mechanically about as interesting as DDR.

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I definitely agree with this, and it seems to be a running theme across several DPS jobs. I don't play BLM, but they added something to their class along the same lines, and screwing it up is supposedly a b****.

I am not sure why smn can't summon dumbfire pets?

I loved those in EQ and EQ2.

Ok...so you can't summon a primal... why not summon a swarm of fun things that all rush and attack... or explode?

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Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Is there anything from the OP that isn't always a suggestion or idea?

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Vitriol. Lots of vitriol. I think he's derailed his own thread more than anyone else in here. xD

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Originally Posted by Bishop81

All those do is make you rush to squeeze in as many attacks as possible or stress you out about using a specific attack within the time limit. Mechanically about as interesting as DDR.

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Actually, they're meant to make you punch your monitor when they fall off as you get sucked into Quarantine

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Originally Posted by ApolloGenX

I am not sure why smn can't summon dumbfire pets?

I loved those in EQ and EQ2.

Ok...so you can't summon a primal... why not summon a swarm of fun things that all rush and attack... or explode?

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Beastmaster calls forth a cherry bomb swarm.

Ninja curses the day tab targeting was born.

Ninja gets lit up like a night sky on the fourth of July.

Beastmaster uses smily emoticons to great effect.

Thumbs up if you'd want your own personal cherry bomb swarm! Flexible beastmasters for the win!

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Originally Posted by Malevicton

"Enochainsomething"

You've definitely convinced me that you have appropriate experience to form these decisions and understand what you're talking about.

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Quoting the beginning of the argument to throw in my $0.02

Enochain is the spell, so actually he got it correct.

He is also 100% correct on his description of BLM, albeit a little vague. Up until 3.0 BLM was a proc based DPS caster, easy to play, fun to play. At 3.0 it is the same, until level 60 and our ENTIRE ROTATION is completely changed. I honestly though about changing classes after my first Neverreap.