Why so much hate for job/class ideas?

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

It's partly because everyone has their own vision for each job, and when a poster makes a thread detailing their vision...if it doesn't match, people get defensive, because they think "SQUARE ENIX WILL MAKE IT LIKE THIS AND NOT LIKE MINE"

I'm guilty of it in Dancer threads to be honest >.< SAY NO TO TANK DANCER.

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I think a golem with a choice of different colored skin, and a wood golem for women. My fiance came up with this idea. Square enix is going to do what they wanna do but that's what the forums is for is to suggest ideas. Like everyone is saying, everyone has their own idea and when ppl don't agree with what they posted they get defensive, sometimes that happens to me, but everyone has their own opinion. There is a difference between giving an opinion and being mean or just simply saying that doesnt sound good. I've posted in this forum and ppl have replied saying i'm stupid and i don't think that's appropriate.

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Originally Posted by Pomelo

I'm guilty of it in Dancer threads to be honest >.< SAY NO TO TANK DANCER.

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Wait. People actually honestly think a tank Dancer would ever be a thing? I mean, I suppose they're doing some weird thinking based on the way XIV seems to invert XI's jobs. Which is rather amusing, considering that NIN was a DPS style class in the very first FF, not a tank, and a DRK was considered somewhat tanky. Cecil, after all, was the one taking all those hits to the face, even before becoming a PLD. That being said, though... DNC tank? God no.

Any suggestion at all on these forums is met with people trolling the topic and calling the OP names.

I want to post my idea of a healer job. Maybe (sure) it won't be well received but well at least i will leave the idea there, maybe someone will like it.

People need to know the harsh reality.

Their ideas sound great in their mind, but have awful results when executed. Game design, class design, etc. isn't as easy as, "Let me post my thoughts that took the span of 20 minutes at most."


You're not just balancing the class, you have to balance it across EVERYTHING in the game that that class interacts with. That includes other classes, the different types of skills that people have (from the noob to the hardcore min/max player), to the lowest level mob to the hardest hitting final boss a few patches from now.

Because 90% of these "ideas" are completely broken or off the wall and have absolutely no chance of ever being viable.

Numbers can always be altered the essence of the job cannot. If the idea has a great structure but numbers are off, they can always be fixed.

You complain too much but the reality is that SE messed up Astrologian, it seems like 1 of those job ideas posted in the forum, but with no cohesion at all.

Square Enix released Astrologian, why can't we post our ideas without getting insulted? Astrologian already sucks, not because of theme, because of the balance. The only 100% useful card is Balance, useless skills like Collective Unconscious, Stella, Nocturnal Stance... Astrologian is a wannabe WHM/SCH with those stances which their theme (Sun/Moon) are blatant copy of SCH fairies without the extra healing they provide.

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Originally Posted by Fated

Because 90% of these "ideas" are completely broken or off the wall and have absolutely no chance of ever being viable.

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Like Astrologian?

Because sad bitter people who can't create ideas themselves?.

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Originally Posted by Lone-wolfe-02

Because sad bitter people who can't create ideas themselves?.

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Why does that argument always pop up? Because you aren't allowed to criticize something without having experience in the thing you're criticizing?

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Originally Posted by AlphaSonic

Square Enix released Astrologian, why can't we post our ideas without getting insulted? Astrologian already sucks

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The irony here kills me.