If I recall correctly what someone told me, Essential Dignity is 400 base potency and 10 potency for every 1% of hp missing. My static's WAR at 1 hp (he Holmganged the tank buster) was a 7k or so heal I think. Might be a bit off, was from like 2 weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aethaeryn
Please Fix Astrologians!
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08-04-2015, 01:50 PMEhr
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08-04-2015, 01:56 PMM0xieI... I never thought to do this. DUH. Bonus that it resets the timer. Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aethaeryn
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08-04-2015, 02:16 PMMarxam
I'm currently leveling AST on my alt and I gotta say it's hella hard keeping up noob tanks compared to WHM and SCH. With WHM I got Bene and regen stacking. With SCH I can let the pet do the healing with Lustrates in between. But the one thing that really irks me is the lack of synergy between the other healers/AST. Diurnal and Nocturnal overwrite each other and that really annoys me.
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08-04-2015, 02:20 PMSDaemonDiurnal doesn't overwrite anything other than another AST's spell so it synergies amazingly with a WHM and decently with a SCH (stacks with fairy regen). Noct overwrites a SCH's Aldo for some insane reason and another AST's. Also Helios and Benefic give 2 different hots that stacks in Diurnal, while Nocts shield is the same regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marxam
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08-04-2015, 02:39 PMSelli
They need to do something about their party bonus too. :\
It's not really a class that's "capable of filling either role fluidly" if they are fighting with SCH for spots in raids because they offer the same party bonus.
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08-04-2015, 02:42 PMAethaerynWhat...? Is that really a problem? "Sorry, Mr. Astro. We'd let you join our static, but we already have a sch giving us bonus piety and we really need the mind bonus from a white mage!" I guess for a small boost to cleric stance deeps...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Selli
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08-04-2015, 02:54 PMSelliYes it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aethaeryn
It was a thing when BisEXual and Rav EX were the only end-game content we had. The PFs would be say WHM and SCH/AST. I've seen leaders deny AST's when they already had a SCH in the party. And it's not for Cleric Stance, it's for heals. The party bonus is nearly 30 mind (iirc it's 26?), and that's basically like having another accessory. It has definitely gotten worse with Savage, as most parties I see won't even accept ASTs for A1.
[EDIT] It's a raider thing, really. You probably won't encounter it as frequently for Bis and Rav now (especially not if the PF min ilevel is 190, LOL), and it certainly doesn't apply to level 50 content (it's done as an undersized party most of the time, anyway). But when fights are new and people are still progressing, yeah, this type of thing becomes an issue. -
08-04-2015, 03:17 PMMarxamcan you confirm which of these are stackable and won't overwrite each other?Quote:
Originally Posted by SDaemon
WHM/AST
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Diurnal)
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Diurnal) + Regen + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Regen + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Nocturnal)
-Medica II + Aspeceted Helios (Nocturnal) + Regen + Aspected Benefic (Nocturnal)
-Regen + Aspeceted Benefic (Nocrutnal)
SCH/AST
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Diurnal)
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Diurnal) + Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Diurnal)
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Nocturnal)
-Succor + Aspected Helios (Nocturnal) + Adloquium + Aspected Benefic (Nocturrnal)
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08-04-2015, 03:18 PMAethaerynThose PFs just sound like they were because the expansion was still new and people didn't know a lot about astro. I never saw a single PF that specifically outcast an AST just because of the party bonus. I did run into tons of people who had no idea that AST has diurnal sect for regen, though. They just assumed that ast and sch would be competing for galvanize/nocturnal field supremacy. Nocturnal Sect is terrible if there's a scholar in the group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selli
Also, people have been clearing savage floors with ast+sch, so I don't think the mind party bonus is absolutely vital for healing. It might help a little, but it should not make or break a group. I think AST having lower potency heals and would be the problem before the party bonus. -
08-04-2015, 03:37 PMMiiuWHM/AST Everything stacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marxam
SCH/AST Everything but Nocturnal spells stack.