In NA, FFXI released one year after it did in JP

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Play Rift (a popular MMO) and then play FFXIV. In my opinion, you are insane if you think Rift combat is better. Insert any other popular mmo in Rift's place and its the same result. Furthermore, is there any other game (beside XI) that has skillchain/battle regimens? Also, we will be getting chain bonuses soon. I think FFXIV combat is very good relative to the competition.

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Well i can't talk much about other mmos such as rift since i only have 3 mmo's experiences, FFXI and FFXIV and ragnarok online, never played anything else. and i'm not gonna be comparing other games battle systems... i'm just gonna talk about my personal experience. FFXI battle system was fun and FFXIV is boring, skill spam says it all and no strategy so far besides the old "hit and heal till it falls" didn't matter what mob i fought so far. Anyway it's just my opinion, maybe it's fun for you i don't care really...

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Originally Posted by Fated

You're stating an opinion too.

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right thats what i was saying......... (i did say that right??)

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Originally Posted by Kobushi

if combat didn't suck they wouldn't have plans to fix it and battle regiments would still be around next month

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right so the battle sucked BEFORE patch 1.18.

thats the point of changing to AA because pressing 11111111 sucked. this does not. IMO

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Originally Posted by Kobushi

Well i can't talk much about other mmos such as rift since i only have 3 mmo's experiences, FFXI and FFXIV and ragnarok online, never played anything else. and i'm not gonna be comparing other games battle systems... i'm just gonna talk about my personal experience. FFXI battle system was fun and FFXIV is boring, skill spam says it all and no strategy so far besides the old "hit and heal till it falls" didn't matter what mob i fought so far. Anyway it's just my opinion, maybe it's fun for you i don't care really...

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Id rather have skill spam then wait 5 mins then WS.. then AA for another 5 mins then WS.

FF11 was fun for its time.. but i rather me to be more involved like ff14 is currently. i like having skills to use thats fun.

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Originally Posted by DNO

right so the battle sucked BEFORE patch 1.18.

thats the point of changing to AA because pressing 11111111 sucked. this does not. IMO

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Even tho many people asked for it, i didnt say AA was what was lacking in combat or that it came to save the whole battle system, it was a minor improvement at best, it let's you chat while hitting if that's something you need doing i guess

for who say FFXI had stuff and FFXIV didmnt, actualy XIV had stuff at launch but they sucked and had to be changed, changing these took all the time instead of progressing (FFXI just progressed all the way, with little TWEAKS)


so the diff here
FFXI: tweaks and fixes
FFXIV: system overhaul lool

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Originally Posted by Kobushi

Even tho many people asked for it, i didnt say AA was what was lacking in combat or that it came to save the whole battle system, it was a minor improvement at best, it let's you chat while hitting if that's something you need doing i guess

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good so we agree its a better system.

It is also a not finished battle system. To judge now would be silly but its pretty clear most people like where its headed.

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Originally Posted by DNO

Combat does not suck thats your opinion.

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its SE's opinion too, thats why they're changing it, lol

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Originally Posted by Kerath

I know FFXI came out on PC back in 2003 for NA and maybe the new experience of playing an MMO in the context of FF, plus the 8 years of development have created unrealistic expectations for FFXIV.

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This I disagree with. I think we had every right and reason to expect a highly polished MMO right out of the gate. We're talking a company with almost a decade of mostly successful experience in the genre. New companies with far less experience have put out far better products in this same timeframe. Please don't blame the fanbase for having "unrealistic expectations" when the truth is SE simply did not deliver.

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

its SE's opinion too, thats why they changed it already, lol

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Fixed it for you.

Again AA is the change and most people like it better. Also it is not complete yet but its better.