Entitled DPS, please stop being entitled

It shouldn't be talked about as it being a solely DPS problem though, because it is as if you're saying it is a DPS only problem. The problem has nothing to do with the job or class of the player, it has to do with the player as an individual, and that is how it should be talked about, because otherwise you are targeting not only the rude DPS but the DPS who have nothing to do with the matter either.

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Originally Posted by Adire

Please re-read my post..I'll sum it up for you though:

One dps needed experience. His healer friend was supporting him, though she did not need experience.

Me and my friend did not need experience.

So I am entitled for choosing to not kill optional mobs, when it's my role to make that choice in the first place? Okay then....

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Fine, bottom line is two people of the party ask you to clear the dungeon and you ignored them because you and your friend didn't. DPS and healer got upset and decided to pull extra mobs because you didn't listen to their needs. You ended up having a bad run. He could have been nicer and you could have spent the extra 10 to 15 minutes helping them out. The entitlement attitude was on both sides. /thread

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Originally Posted by Dyvid

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I did not ignore them. I chose to not do what they wanted. And again, they did not ASK. They DEMANDED. It was 2 vs 2, I was the tank, my job dictates that I determine mob pulls. I apologize if doing my job and using it as the tiebreaker means I'm entitled.

Someone had to get their way, and someone wasn't going to get their way. I was the tank, pacing was my job, there was a tie, so I'm pretty sure that that gives me the right to fairly determine if I do my job how I want or how someone else wants.

I'm sure you'll get likes on your comment though. Sensational posts seem to often prevail here.

Two people who can't communicate like god damn human beings go and make each other angry? Why I never figured that'd be the case.

If someone says something in an instance and you don't want to do it, speak up and talk about it. How about "I'm just trying to do this quickly, man, mind if we blow through it?" Or... anything? Just talk like you know how to interact with another person instead of getting all huffy and writing a post on the forums?

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Originally Posted by Adire

So I am entitled for choosing to not kill optional mobs, when it's my role to make that choice in the first place? Okay then....

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You are missing the irony of calling the dps entitled for wanting to full clear when you don't want to, but saying you are not entitled for wanting to speed run when they don't want to?

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Originally Posted by Verdan

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Allow me to clarify this further.

I did respond to his demand, by choosing to not pull extra mobs and by talking to him. He responded to my saying that we needed it done ASAP by saying that he would just pull mobs on his own anyways, and the healer would let me die if I didn't go along with them.

I was contemplating doing as they wished even after the demand. That's why I asked him to AoE. Clearing every trash in the dungeon without any aoeing would take an insanely long time, and there was no way I was going to clear all the mobs for him AND greatly increase the time it took to finish the dungeon, to the detriment of my friend myself even further. AoEing would have been a compromise essentially.

He responded to me asking him to aoe by saying "i have one aoe, thank you and goodbye" and refusing to do so. More rudeness on his part.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

You are missing the irony of calling the dps entitled for wanting to full clear when you don't want to, but saying you are not entitled for wanting to speed run when they don't want to?

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Did you miss the part of my post that says there was a tie? Was I wrong for playing my job as I wanted to play it, given that fact?

The alternative would have been to nullify my own vote and tank as he wanted me to tank. How is that any better in a tie? Refusing to give up your right to do your job as you please during a tie does not = entitled...

As long as the first step was communication rather than passive aggressive action, then you're in the clear. But this is not some sort of insurmountable problem, you guys just had different ideas about how to do the dungeon and it's not like it needed to be a big deal.

If you don't like what the tank wants to do, you can kick them. Otherwise, the tank gets to drive and you're just along for the ride. If you're dead set on doing a dungeon a certain way, don't use DF, use PF. That's one of the reasons it exists.

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Originally Posted by Zaft

If you don't like what the tank wants to do, you can kick them. Otherwise, the tank gets to drive and you're just along for the ride. If you're dead set on doing a dungeon a certain way, don't use DF, use PF. That's one of the reasons it exists.

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Thank you for being one of the reasonable people here.

Gods forbid a tank be allowed to decide how mobs should be pulled, despite that being a large part of their role. Even more so when it's a tank and a DRG vs a healer and a BRD.

Apparently the healer and the brd should get the final say so xD

If a healer doesn't want to do a speed run. As a tank...you are not doing a speed run, believe me. Nowhere in your "job description" does it say you have a right, as a tank, to unilaterally decide for the group how the dungeon run is going to be pulled. As a matter of fact, if the two DPS want a full clear and the healer does not care...you are obligated, as the minority, to clear the whole dungeon for them (or ditch the group I guess).

How ironic that the OP complain about the DPS being "entitled" when it is the OP, itself that is coming across as the entitled one.