Booting for the dumbest reasons.

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Originally Posted by Teryaani

Even if that is true, you queued as a tank. In the event that you are needed to perform that function, you won't be able to.

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Who says MRDs can't tank in LotA? Everyone's so overgeared it really wouldn't make much of a difference, aside from healers possibly needing to be a little more attentive. Even then it's barely anything different from a WAR tanking without Defiance.

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Originally Posted by gamesmart

Who says MRDs can't tank in LotA? Everyone's so overgeared it really wouldn't make much of a difference, aside from healers possibly needing to be a little more attentive. Even then it's barely anything different from a WAR tanking without Defiance.

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If they can't hold threat against the healers and dps, they aren't tanking. This isn't just about their lack of damage mitigation.

I'll say it again, for LotA, I really don't care as the dps can tank the trash if necessary, but I can see why someone would care and I'd rather not dismiss a valid complaint. It is an extra hassle and the person doing it is expecting others to possibly deal with a small annoyance on their behalf.

As I said in the beginning, I'd just roll my eyes and play through. I certainly wouldn't kick for it.

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Originally Posted by Teryaani

If they can't hold threat against the healers and dps, they aren't tanking.

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If a MRD can't hold aggro with their burst then there is honestly a serious problem with that MRD. (I can get 2k Butcher's Blocks with all cooldowns on MRD) Threat is less of an issue on MRD as mitigation, really.

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Originally Posted by Teryaani

If they can't hold threat against the healers and dps, they aren't tanking. This isn't just about their lack of damage mitigation.

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Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

Tanks don't even tank stance in fcob anymore, where the dps in their groups are putting out a significantly larger amount of damage than you'll find in a typical run of lota.

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Originally Posted by gamesmart

If a MRD can't hold aggro with their burst then there is honestly a serious problem with that MRD. (I can get 2k Butcher's Blocks with all cooldowns on MRD) Threat is less of an issue on MRD as mitigation, really.

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Edit: Alright, I'm going to test this myself tonight. I'll ping my favorite tank and we'll do a dps off. He's got the same ilvl as me and I'll see what happens.

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Originally Posted by Whiston

Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

Tanks don't even tank stance in fcob anymore, where the dps in their groups are putting out a significantly larger amount of damage than you'll find in a typical run of lota.

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Not sure I'm going to take your word for anything other than bluster.

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Originally Posted by Whiston

Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

Tanks don't even tank stance in fcob anymore, where the dps in their groups are putting out a significantly larger amount of damage than you'll find in a typical run of lota.

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What kind of crap DPS do you run with?

I'm out of Defiance a lot in FCoB, yes...when I'm NOT tanking or don't need it on for mitigation. If I have aggro on something (except for a single child in t10, and the 2nd Akh Morn) I will always have Defiance ON. Sure, I can likely hold against my DPS without Defiance (and have, accidentally), but there's that pesky thing called a boss that likes to eat your face off (and/or your healers mana) if you forget your tank stance...

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Originally Posted by Teryaani

Edit: Alright, I'm going to test this myself tonight. I'll ping my favorite tank and we'll do a dps off. He's got the same ilvl as me and I'll see what happens.



Not sure I'm going to take your word for anything other than bluster.

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Multiple groups run sword oath MT now
He's not lying.

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Originally Posted by ziddyt

Multiple groups run sword oath MT now
He's not lying.

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That's fine, based on the response and his lodestone (hidden achieves, no dreadwyrm gear, on his visible class) there was no way I was taking his word for it.

Long time ago I was booted from a T9 for telling the party leader he was doing something wrong lol. He literally just left the raid after causing our wipe, didn't reply back to me and kicked me and I saw it back in party finder with a full group - 1 person LOL

I personally wouldn't have gone to the lengths to kick a MRD in labyrinth of the ancients.. But your reasoning sounds like an afterthought..

What would you have done on the off chance that your other tank was a WAR with 4k hp?

By queueing in the duty finder as a tank, you're agreeing to perform your role as necessary. How your group decides to react to your decision to instead take on a dps role, it's their own choice.