Heavensward - jobs and end game

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Originally Posted by madolyn

I agree. FFXI had a lot of choices for gear and didn't have ilvl. Some pieces got used for a very long time due to their utility. (rdm af comes to mind)

FFXIV basically uses ilvl as the deciding factor and its kind of sad. Everything is a one way track to getting better gear and no diversity.

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This so much.. The whole ilevel is nothing but false progress in my opinion.

alt gearing wouldn't be so bad if things like ST/Wod didn't have weekly lockouts on gear.

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Originally Posted by Alipoprocks

I just wish there were at the very least two places for i130 gear. And I just hope we will have more content in Heavensward. Or less restricted content.

But it looks like I am the only one and most people are not bothered by this. Ugh

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That's because there are 2 places to get ilvl 130 items.

Technically even 3 if you consider that crafted accessories are effectively 130 or better.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

That's because there are 2 places to get ilvl 130 items.

Technically even 3 if you consider that crafted accessories are effectively 130 or better.

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I think the point is it would be nice to have other avenues to obtain gear. Not alternate ways to obtain the same stuff, but just more relevant end game content in general.

Yoshida already said in a PAX interview that gear in Heavensward will be more diagonally than vertically. And that crafted gear get a bigger role in endleven than during 2.x

Of course, the highest ilevel will be still from the highest raid content only.

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Originally Posted by Yurihyuga

alt gearing wouldn't be so bad if things like ST/Wod didn't have weekly lockouts on gear.

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Uh, ST don't have weekly lockout since months

if u are in a static u probably have a "2nd" job , so loot that no1 wants goes to ppl that choosed that 2nd job.

but yeah 1 job is going to be your main , even in FFXI ppl had 1 job and geared it well , some sets were shared btw some jobs (MNK/NIN/SAM , DRK/WAR/DRG/BST ect) but u still probably played that job 80% of the time and maybe a suport if none were avaliable , tanks were kinda fixed (since once u get the relic shield....)

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

I think the point is it would be nice to have other avenues to obtain gear. Not alternate ways to obtain the same stuff, but just more relevant end game content in general.

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Except Ironworks, Dreadwyrm and the crafted sets are not the same stuff, just the same ilvl (well not the crafted but fully melded its pretty on par)....

I do feel there should be a much wider variety than just 3 but those 3 aren't the same lol

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Originally Posted by Jim_Berry

Well, I play everyday, and spam everything I'm experienced at. When PF asks for iLv110 for Titan Ex, then your statement becomes null. iLv is demanded for farms and phase pushing, which is all everyone does/expect now. No one really do normal mechanics these days. We're talking 1 tank, 1 heal, 6 dps in some cases, so they want that iLv high.

Yes, you CAN do it with minimum iLv, but if my NIN is iLv123 but only WHM slot open, she's not getting in due to her iLv being less than iLv110.

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There is not a single lockout preventing you from getting i110, endgame is currently i130.

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Originally Posted by SDaemon

Except Ironworks, Dreadwyrm and the crafted sets are not the same stuff, just the same ilvl (well not the crafted but fully melded its pretty on par)....

I do feel there should be a much wider variety than just 3 but those 3 aren't the same lol

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I think you missed what I was trying to say there. There has always been a Tome variant and a Raid variant. Tome gear has always had a way to be upgraded via Coil and other content to match the current highest ilvl. What would be nice is more viable options for end game that would require the completion of things outside of hunt grinding and Coil. We're talking stuff that's on par with top tier gear, coming from a different (but still equally challenging) end game activity all together.

LoTA, ST and WoD really don't count here given the fact that there are very few pieces of gear that are even worth using after you get access to a piece of 130 stuff for that slot.

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

I think you missed what I was trying to say there. There has always been a Tome variant and a Raid variant. Tome gear has always had a way to be upgraded via Coil and other content to match the current highest ilvl. What would be nice is more viable options for end game that would require the completion of things outside of hunt grinding and Coil. We're talking stuff that's on par with top tier gear, coming from a different (but still equally challenging) end game activity all together.

LoTA, ST and WoD really don't count here given the fact that there are very few pieces of gear that are even worth using after you get access to a piece of 130 stuff for that slot.

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What you meant and what you wrote prior were very different than.