"If WOW ever goes completely free-to-play, maybe we will consider it." Naoki Yoshida

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Originally Posted by Lilyarel

Bugs arnt even an issue. The game itself is such a snorefest. Its like junk food. Good for like 5 minutes and short intervals, but really bad if you go on any longer.

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ESO did however have a plethora of emotes. That's probably the only thing I liked about it.

What I want to know is this survey he talks about where he said 80% of players didn't want the game to go free to play.

Did they really do this survey? I never got one to fill out did anyone else?

This title is rather misleading. If anyone cares to read the piece and did not skip reading comprehension class, you'll read that he understands other companies going this direction but that it is not needed for FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by abzoluut

This title is rather misleading. If anyone cares to read the piece and did not skip reading comprehension class, you'll read that he understands other companies going this direction but that it is not needed for FFXIV.

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Really? In a few months everybody will go and pay $40 for access to bunch of new areas and classes that can't otherwise be accessed. Many will also pay an additional $30 for the "collector's edition" will will contain mounts, minions, and other goodies in game that can not otherwise be obtained by other means. It'll probably also include a Fantasia so you don't have to spend $10 for a Fantasia to change your character to the new race that's included.

Oh... and look at the money people spent on Ceremony of the Eternal Bond? Sure there's a free version. but most couples seem to be willing to pay $40 ($20 each) for the premium version.

So why can't F2P work with FFXIV? Who wants to spend $40 on a game that works only for 30 days unless you commit to a monthly subscription fee? Oh yeah, beside us fools?

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Originally Posted by lorel

So there is a new interview with Naoki Yoshida and one of the things that is asked is how Final fantasy will compete with The Elder Scrolls Online.

Here is the full interview

http://www.pangamers.com/gaming/fina...g/#comment-594.

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I don't think the Final Fantasy series has anything to worry about. It's been around for 28 years, so it has a huge fan-base and seems to always be in the top 5 on popular mmo gaming sites. FFXI is a great game with tons of features, and is just fun to play :)

For FFXI - I think the only thing they need to do aside from adding regular expansions is keep it's look modernized by updating character skin textures and the in game lighting to stay competitive with the newer mmos coming out like Bless, and Black Desert. Other than that - the game is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Laraul

So why can't F2P work with FFXIV? Who wants to spend $40 on a game that works only for 30 days unless you commit to a monthly subscription fee? Oh yeah, beside us fools?

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And all of WoW's subscription base. It's worth noting that the argument (I'm paying you monthly, why am I paying for the expac) makes sense and I agree that it's lame to have to do so. You can bet that when EQNext comes out, it'll try this model too, at least at first, just like ESO and SWtoR.

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Originally Posted by lorel

What I want to know is this survey he talks about where he said 80% of players didn't want the game to go free to play.

Did they really do this survey? I never got one to fill out did anyone else?

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It was a secret survey held by the Anti-F2P Society. Shhhh... we can't talk about it. :p



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Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles

Is it so hard to believe that there are some people who actually like the security of the P2P model? There are hundreds of F2P games out there for people who want them, however there are very few P2P games anymore.

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That was meant entirely as a joke. I prefer the P2P sub model myself.

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Originally Posted by Teryaani

And all of WoW's subscription base. It's worth noting that the argument (I'm paying you monthly, why am I paying for the expac) makes sense and I agree that it's lame to have to do so. You can bet that when EQNext comes out, it'll try this model too, at least at first, just like ESO and SWtoR.

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And there is also FFXI that is still running on a P2P model. THAT game will go free to play before FFXIV ever will.

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Originally Posted by Elleoille

It was a secret survey held by the Anti-F2P Society. Shhhh... we can't talk about it. :p

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Is it so hard to believe that there are some people who actually like the security of the P2P model? There are hundreds of F2P games out there for people who want them, however there are very few P2P games anymore.

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Originally Posted by Laraul

So why can't F2P work with FFXIV? Who wants to spend $40 on a game that works only for 30 days unless you commit to a monthly subscription fee? Oh yeah, beside us fools?

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People who want quality with their content?

Free to play games almost universally have one of two major issues. Either they have very few and far between updates, and these updates also tend to be rather small. Or they have moderate updates, but force a pay-to-win lifestyle from their players. The downside with the latter is you have a few wealthier players essentially paying for the gameplay of the larger 'free' playerbase. That means the game caters more for the buyers, and as a result the game becomes heavily weighted in their favour one way or another.

Free to play has been the death of more good games than I care to mention, and it would utterly ruin FFXIV if it went that way. Be glad you're paying a subscription, because it means they can release content which matters to us.