Nanamo's age (and Ul'dah's youngest ruler)

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Originally Posted by TheTen

Whoa, I didn't expect such a quick thorough answer, thank you! And yes, this clears up a lot.

Also enjoying the ensuing discussion of Ul'dahn politics. For what it's wroth, I think Nanamo is having the right idea, but I hope she'll go about it smart and patient.

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I think a big part of the poblem, that other Warriors of Light in these forums have with her, is really the fact that she is 25. It's also why I don't expect her to be as wise as you might be looking for. She's still just a little girl. . . that's not a lalafell joke. <or is it?>

Well she recognizes the fact that she is 20 and everyone belittles her, but she is smarter than she appears to be. Destroying her power, the monarchy system, to stop the fight for supreme power (that is to say Lolorito getting to throne and being all tyrannical and stuff) and try to make a democracy which is a bit (just a little bit) easier to keep things stable.

Still this change has no win whatsoever in the near future it will become chaos and pretty much everyone will lose, however seeing the merchant city-state it is in the long run it will benefit Ul'dah to become a democracy.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

I have no pity for that sultana, she is the RULER and she acts like a doormat. Having a BIG BODYGUARD standing by your side doesn't do anything.

Edit: Every other leader in each part is either feared or respected or BOTH, shes neither.

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Gridania is some sort of Anarchist Utopia, with Kan-E-Senna acting more like a spiritual leader than a ruler.
Limsa is essentially a Pirate's Den. Merylwyb was jsut the person who rose above with a plan to bring order to the so-called city, and the strength to gather allies to her cause (either by agreeing with her that something must be done, or sheer brute force at the point of a gun). Nobody wants to or dares go against her, simply put.

Nou Ul'dah is another thing entirely. It's House of Cards meet fucking Game of Thrones there, bitches. Neither She or Raubahnn have control over the city, simply cuz the place is corrupted beyond recovery. My guess is that the only thing keeping her from being offed is fear of popular revolt.

She's not weak, problem is her position as leader was crushed before she was even born.

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

If a system doesn't work, tear it down, change and rebuild. I HATE monetarists with a passion cause they are so BLINDED. She may not rule alone but shes at the TOP of power over the others.

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You can't just go, "Guys, I have the power, so we're changing our politics!" and expect the rest of the government to go, "Seems legit, OK, we won't raise a fuss." and the people go, "Certainly not a grab for power, legit, would support 10/10."

Also crowned age 5. Holy crud. Poor Lalafellin childhood...! (Wait, do Lalafell reach adulthood at five?!)

so...since we know her age... is she the result of "sultana's lap"? :X

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Originally Posted by Ramen

so...since we know her age... is she the result of "sultana's lap"? :X

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The Sultana in the Sultana's Lap is actually Nanamo's mother. The name of that room is a very subtle nod towards several pieces of Eorzean history. I don't think many (if any) people have even picked up on it. It also just happens to be one of my favorite pieces of FFXIV trivia ever. It got a quick mention back in our Fan Fest interview.

All over La Noscea are cave systems and hidden bays once used by the great pirate lord Mistbeard to hide and transport his booty. Some are abandoned, some were destroyed in the Calamity, and some have been taken over by other pirate crews now that Mistbeard has vanished. Sashtasha is a grotto that connects to one of Mistbeard's old bases, which runs under the territory now claimed by the Sahagin in Western La Noscea. Even before the Calamity, it had been taken over by Serpent Reavers.

One of the most famous tales of Mistbeard's exploits focuses on the wedding day of Ul'dah's previous Sultan, Nanamo's father. In the middle of the celebration, Mistbeard's crew stole into the royal vaults, making off with a fortune in Allagan gold. But while his crew was busy making ready the escape, legend has it that Mistbeard was off seducing the soon-to-be Sultana, adding her... erm... virtue to the haul. So, the treasure room of Mistbeard's old cove houses the Sultana's Lap.

Mistbeard was saying that it was a good place to... admirest thy booty, if you know what I mean. A good place to... dropest thine anchor...

So ... did Grand Storm Marshal Eynzahr Slafyrsyn once bone the Sultana's mother? Who's to say which parts of pirate legend are truth and which just made for a great drinking story, further and further exaggerated from one sloshed buccaneer to the next. The world may never know... but some do say Nanamo Ul Namo bears a striking resemblance to a certain roguish pirate...

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Oyyyy...

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Originally Posted by Pinkie_Pie

If a system doesn't work, tear it down, change and rebuild. I HATE monetarists with a passion cause they are so BLINDED. She may not rule alone but shes at the TOP of power over the others.

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"No doubt you've discovered that loyalty is no longer the currency of the realm"

"Then what is?"

"...I'm afraid currency is the currency of the realm."

my opinion she get crowned to young in result the monetarist control every single thing in the city (the money, corruption and etc) the royalist can't do nothing because he not have the connection and the money to rebuild the reputation sure he have the other city state to call help but i think if the sultana call help that appear in a weakness to other city and maybe limsa or gridania or maybe the ishgard or garlemald make a invasion on Ul'dah to have more terrictory and more power sure kan-e-senna and merlwyb gonna not tell her the city state gonna invade Ul'dah actually to hide he card well we see that in the next pacth what position take.

All this talk of money as power; and emotional devotion as power, misses the real target. And it doesn't surprise me.

The only, the One True Source of power, is this - the ability to kill, and the will to do so.

The richest man or woman in the world is nothing before the blade of a patriot, an assassin, or a simple quiet man with a plan.

Now, people tend to chime in here about "slippery slope" and "you can't kill everyone" and "you psychopath!" and suchlike.

They are limited in their outlook.

There is no slippery slope ("If you start killing, they start killing back, ad infinitum...") if you are thorough.

You CAN kill everyone, with enough determination and resourcefulness - and resources.

All you need is the will to act.

Nanamo doesn't have that kind of will... that we've seen. Nor does Papashan, or even, yes, Raubahn.


Merlwyb now... there we go... stone cold as necessary. Practical. Realpolitik in action.



Teledji and Lolorito need to sleep with the fishes, aye... and their family, and their supporters, yea unto the tenth generation...