Do you guys find crafting fun?

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Originally Posted by Bubblegum01

It does depend on luck but it is more like 80% skill and 20% rng. People complain that there are too much rng but actually they just don't have the skill to adapt to a changing situation.

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This right here. It really isn't that difficult for 3 & 4*. RNG really plays a role on reclaim. When that fails, yes, you can curse the RNG gods. Just because it doesn't 95 or 100% quality the first try doesn't mean RNG sucks. I will admit though that the Master II books were not fun. However, there were a couple classes I finished the items in 7-8 tries. WVR was the only one that took me 30+ tries and it was my first MII book.

Crafting 3+ stars will play with your emotions.... Especially the 3 star master books, and you'll spend hours on crafting, but it'll be satisfying after you're done because you know you won against RNGesus/RNG Gods. In the end its a lottery, with a very mathematical approach. If you're a number cruncher and/or a statistician you'll love it.


..... I'm neither of those and I still like it. :P

This is the best master book II token rotation I have found just in case someone still need it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzO43-1-EPg

I get 3 out 4 HQ once i get the rotation down, my stat was 394/ 387/ 392 with food

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Originally Posted by baopee

my stat was 394/ 387/ 392 with food

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Wow, those stats were much lower than mine. Nice work. I was at 446/406/392 (or 394) when I did mine.

Yes... but not having to make something HQ, especially the 40 durability stuff. That makes me angsty.

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IMO if you are pushing this craft to finish at 17% and getting mad at the game/RNG you need to work on crafting in general. For a crafter that is fully geared and using HQ Bouballise (however it's spelled) you should easily be able to push this to 85% +. Granted you may be showing an example here but for those doing this regularly I'm telling you that you should reclaim this and shoot for 85% or more. It really is not hard to achieve with a proper rotation. RNG screwing you here would be on the reclaim. But reclaim doesn't fail often enough to not use it. Sure it takes more time to reclaim and do it again but you're not wasting mats/seals etc.

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Originally Posted by Kael_Raiju

Granted you may be showing an example here but for those doing this regularly I'm telling you that you should reclaim this and shoot for 85% or more. It really is not hard to achieve with a proper rotation. RNG screwing you here would be on the reclaim. But reclaim doesn't fail often enough to not use it. Sure it takes more time to reclaim and do it again but you're not wasting mats/seals etc.

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I'm sure the original poster already knows this, but using reclaim on those synths is not smart. Why would you use reclaim at 90% when you can get the "important" mats back from the npc at 100%? That's not a good example of calling something a bad rotation. Most everyone just finishes these synths even when they run into horrid rng no matter what the percent is because there is no downside to it. I'm sure this same guy had many 80-100% of these synths as well.

What bothers me most is that outside the Ixali Beast Tribe quests, crafting doesn't really have any other content available (besides upgrading themselves and gatherers).

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Originally Posted by Kael_Raiju

IMO if you are pushing this craft to finish at 17% and getting mad at the game/RNG you need to work on crafting in general. For a crafter that is fully geared and using HQ Bouballise (however it's spelled) you should easily be able to push this to 85% +. Granted you may be showing an example here but for those doing this regularly I'm telling you that you should reclaim this and shoot for 85% or more. It really is not hard to achieve with a proper rotation. RNG screwing you here would be on the reclaim. But reclaim doesn't fail often enough to not use it. Sure it takes more time to reclaim and do it again but you're not wasting mats/seals etc.

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Huh? I think you missed the context. I said this doesn't occur often (once out of 24 crafts it was this bad), but it is an example of how RNG can ruin your day (or make it). Having 5 fails with a 80% hasty touch already turns your chances of getting a fairly good HQ rate to abyssal for any 3★+ craft, unless you land a BB on excellent. Finishing at 26 steps is really pitiful for this sort of craft considering the amount of quality is needed. Getting 85% "easily" is an understatement when it requires a minimum of 10 stacks of IQ for a 40 durability craft.

With my stats at the time (453 craft, 407 control, 494 cp), I still don't have enough stats to do basic touch in place of hasty unless I had a crapload of ToT procs. Otherwise, I need to use hasty to save CP so I have more to restore durability in order to fit more touches to get enough of a quality for a good rate.

Also, I finished the craft at 17% because in this case, you could trade the NQ items to refund the important materials (the soldiery material and the crafting cataylst), reclaiming this is a bad idea when you have so much more to lose if that 90% fails you. I couldn't prolong it beyond 26 steps because my CP was completely drained.

I mean in the end, this is only a little different from using a macro rotation or whatever to 100% HQ items that you severely overgear for anyway, but this is in the same vein that you're practically following a flowchart of what's being thrown at you to succeed the craft

For me, I don't really find it fun anymore because it's way too difficult to catch up properly. I feel really overwhelmed with all the 3-4 Star crafts and that discourages me even further.

Maybe it's because I just burnt out crafting at the very beginning (got all of them to 50 after my main hit 50) as I had a crafting addiction xD.

I have hopes that I'll get back to crafting around 3.0 but right now, it feels too much of a chore than fun to me.