Spell request for Scholar [Dev]

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Originally Posted by Bigcat9715

Strangely as I run through dungeons as either dps or tank I see very few WHM, but it seems that scholar has become the norm. You could have made the argument that proshell is there to make up for the fact that scholar has pets and can place barriers on people, and white mage is just a walking first aid.

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What game are you playing? I EASILY see that about 75% of the healers are WHM. Run Alliance Raids, you'll rarely see more SCHs then WHMs(You usually see 4 WHMs or at least I do) I can't see how anyone can say that SCH has become the "norm". There may be more SCHs going into dungeons currently but that's because Dungeons are easy and SCHs make them even easier (unless its a Speedrun dungeon, then
WHM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCH) by basically just being another DPS with a heal bot. Besides, Magic Defense isn't needed in dungeons, usually.

I main SCH and this is one of the silliest things I've ever read suggested for a SCH. Not only is it a huge balance issue, it is not needed and you have no REAL reason you think it should be in the game.

Side: You obviously know nothing about a WHM if you call them a "walking first aid".

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

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On the topic of Macros: other than allowing me to cast E4E and Virus on my designated target while targeting the boss(mob)/Tank, a Rez macro, and having a Rouse>Fey Illumination>Whispering Dawn macro, I don't see how macros are THAT useful for a SCH. I only use those, and 3 Cross hotbars and I find it easy.

So OP just wants the ability to have Protoshell because he doesn't use WHM. Sorry, but exclusive abilities and traits should stay in their respective jobs and classes. Otherwise every character will be further watered down and we'd end up with even more uniformed party line ups.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

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Explain to me how white mage isn't a first aid.
On the macro topic: I have my cross bar down to 2 hotbars thanks to macros. I have the dps hotbar and the healer hotbar.

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Originally Posted by VanilleFang

Side: You obviously know nothing about a WHM if you call them a "walking first aid".

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That he wants SCHs to be able to go from 30% magic damage mitigation to 40% while replacing the need for a WHM suggests to me he doesn't know SCH that well either...^^;

I can understand the desire to have a longer term buff associated with the job but I don't think Shell is the way to go. Something that complements WHM instead of trying to replace WHM would be great. (But, forum SCHs do seem to resent that WHM has a place at all...)

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

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I know how to play Sch pretty decently I believe. Well to the point where no one dies and I can dps a bit. 40% magic damage mitigation is ridiculous. I'm looking for more of a 10% then add Fey Covenant it would just make it 30%. Plus they should make it where shell and proshell can't be on the team at the same time, so if you place proshell on the team it removes shell if you place shell on the team it removes proshell. Also I love having WHM on my team when I'm raiding or doing turns, because having 1 Sch and 1 WHM makes a big difference from having 2 of the same.

No. Any content where a SCH is by themselves, you won't need shell anyway.

Instead, what you should be asking for is proshell to be cross classable. As it currently stands, for any serious raid group you will probably want a WHM just for proshell alone. This means when AST comes out most raid comps for progression will begin as WHM + SCH/AST.

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Originally Posted by Ghishlain

Instead, what you should be asking for is proshell to be cross classable. As it currently stands, for any serious raid group you will probably want a WHM just for proshell alone. This means when AST comes out most raid comps for progression will begin as WHM + SCH/AST.

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In that case, make Summon cross classable <- I hope you realise the problem with this.

Also: A raid group taking white mage only for proshell? Are you for real?

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Originally Posted by Bigcat9715

I know how to play Sch pretty decently I believe. Well to the point where no one dies and I can dps a bit. 40% magic damage mitigation is ridiculous. I'm looking for more of a 10% then add Fey Covenant it would just make it 30%. Plus they should make it where shell and proshell can't be on the team at the same time, so if you place proshell on the team it removes shell if you place shell on the team it removes proshell. Also I love having WHM on my team when I'm raiding or doing turns, because having 1 Sch and 1 WHM makes a big difference from having 2 of the same.

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Don't forget sacred soil. I understand it would be nice to have a longer term buff but SCH's short term ones already make it a very powerful mitigation job (30% magic mitigation, make that 40% if you have a WHM with you, then SCH/SMN-only virus--fever technically--further reduces the power of magic attacks. Then you have Succor to group shield people, and a group regen that's as powerful as my single target regen.). In any case, if it gets a long term buff I don't think it should replace WHM's one.

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Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine

Also: A raid group taking white mage only for proshell? Are you for real?

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Yes... as mentioned, a lot of forum SCHs seem to resent that WHM has a role of its own. They're serious.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Yes... as mentioned, a lot of forum SCHs seem to resent that WHM has a role of its own. They're serious.

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Oh I know them well enough. I dubbed them Scholar Bandwagon Hippies*.

* Doesn't apply to real Scholars