Raid runs and gear drops

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Originally Posted by Rogue

thats my point weeble

i could get a party of archers and mage and get my sword tomorrow

as it is i want to do runs with my ls and the ls leader doesnt want to exclude people..

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Then do it. Christ...
It's still going to take the same amount of knowledge and execution with Archers/Mages if you were to do it with all melee/mages.

keftank if you gonna make stupid posts just leave

i think it is more the strategy being used more then anything, real reason they are being used is people are lazy and still using the only strategy posted on the net for them instead of figuring them out. u can glide threw batral with almost no dmg being done to players. mele or archer. just need to figure them out.

ive said all im gonna say, and i know alot of people agree with me

SE, fix it

cya

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Originally Posted by Rogue

ive said all im gonna say, and i know alot of people agree with me

SE, fix it

cya

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Delusions x.x

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Originally Posted by Keftenk

Delusions x.x

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More like ability to count "thumbs up". So far you got 0. Rogue got 3 for his initial post alone. While this does not nessecerly means that "a lot" of poeple agree with him, so far you appear to be in minority amont the thread readers.

need more than one word posts for a thumbs up

Oh hi, you're back lol.

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Originally Posted by Rogue

"1) range; no huge spikes of AE dmg since they aren't in melee range which results in no upkeep of healing except on the tank 2) Archers are the fastest-most reliable burst type classes and mages have the most OP form of damage in the game."

doesnt all that account for the efficiency part?

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1. Have melee set cures and other actions to help thier MP, Leg Sweep will stun AOEs and Melee are not bound they can run when AOEs are running, I have done runs with 2 melees and had no problems with MP for the whole run.

2. Burst damage doesnt matter, what matters is DoT especially on the stronger mobs.

You are the type of person that could kill the game because you are so close minded, if mobs have AoEs you have to use ARCs so according to you all endgame will be ARC or gtfo because all endgame will have AOEs, you need to think outside the box to beable to play the game effectively, AOEs dont mean ranged damage only you think of ways around it.

Yes there will be unstunnable AOEs that can one shot melee which need to be hit with mages or ranged but there is no place in the Darkhold where this is the case.

People who say ARC onry so they dont get hit by AOE need to learn the basic mechanics of the game, i.e Stun interupts attacks and leg sweep is only r16 LNC so it will take no time for melee to get.

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Originally Posted by Haji

One thing that have also been said here (and I'm not sure there are topics for this elswhere) is the subjob system. It definetly needs to be adjusted. I play glad myself and when I heared that to be good tank I needed 50 GLA and 30 ARC, LANC, MRD, PGL.. in other words when I heard that I have to level all disiples of war halfway to the end I got really dishearthened.

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You can get all those subs to 30 in a week. 30 is only about 1/4 the way to 50 in terms of SP. The game was built around cross classing like that, if you want to be the best tank then yes you need skills from other classes. It shouldn't matter as much when you can become a PLD job however so they are addressing this somewhat.