Bard Poison and You!

there are no crystals in T7 ._.

T6 maybe ? ;D

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

there are no crystals in T7 ._.

T6 maybe ? ;D

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cheeky, you know what i meant lol

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Originally Posted by jlewiss

cheeky, you know what i meant lol

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I do ^^

Seriously, it seems that most poison type DoTs do not apply on non-moving mobs that have low HP. It doesn't matter whether they apply or not tbh in these cases. It counts rocks, metallic objects, and a few neglictible things.

Atomos may fall in that non-moving category, causing the DoT-resistance. An overseeing from the devs due to the intended strat I assume

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

thats not what OP is talking about. there are certain enemies that flat say immune to venomous bite. like one other person said, the crystal in turn 7 is immune, as are the rocks in coperbell.

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I know for a fact that the rocks in Copperbell are imune to Bane, but you can still manually apply the dots to it.

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Originally Posted by Airashii

I've noticed in a lot of content, especially CT content, monsters and certain targets are immune to Venom Bite. Anyone have a theory as to why say, Ifrit's Nail in Extreme, and the Battle Standards in the new Wanderer's Palace are immune to poison. But Ninja still gets their 20% damage from Poison. And Summoners/Scholars can put diseases on these.

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There's actually a logical reason behind this. The poison the NIN apply to their daggers are from various poisonous creatures, whose venom melts through all manner of things. The various SMN/SCH DoTs work because they're corrupting aether, something all matter has in Eorzea. But you cannot inject actual poison into something non-living, nor can you Disembowel something non-living. This is why neither of those two abilities work on things such as the boulders in Copperbell HM.

It's just the bard's curse. Think of BRD in FFXI, and of how any boss/NM from Wings of the Goddess and upwards is immune to Foe Requirem, BRD's main debuff. It's just how Se looks at bard.

A lot of misinformed people here... wow. Yes, the nails in Ifrit Extreme cannot be venomous bit, and yes, the inanimate objects in WP HM cannot be venomous bit. It always seems to be an enemy that cannot attack back directly. I have no idea why it doesn't work either, it's probably some dumb lore reason.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

There's actually a logical reason behind this. The poison the NIN apply to their daggers are from various poisonous creatures, whose venom melts through all manner of things. The various SMN/SCH DoTs work because they're corrupting aether, something all matter has in Eorzea. But you cannot inject actual poison into something non-living, nor can you Disembowel something non-living. This is why neither of those two abilities work on things such as the boulders in Copperbell HM.

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Except, this doesn't actually work. Summoner spells description alone breaks your logic by the simple quote. "Causes fever and lungs are failing." Rocks, Totems, and Dragon heads (In WoD on the 2nd boss are immune to Venomous bite too.) do not have lungs or white-blood cells. And even then, it's still the same concept. It's both poisons. If we got by that same logic, bard should be nearly worthless against these objects alone. How effective exactly is an arrow against a rock? Chances are, it won't pierce. It's more likely to ricochet.

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Originally Posted by Airashii

Except, this doesn't actually work. Summoner spells description alone breaks your logic by the simple quote. "Causes fever and lungs are failing." Rocks, Totems, and Dragon heads (In WoD on the 2nd boss are immune to Venomous bite too.) do not have lungs or white-blood cells. And even then, it's still the same concept. It's both poisons. If we got by that same logic, bard should be nearly worthless against these objects alone. How effective exactly is an arrow against a rock? Chances are, it won't pierce. It's more likely to ricochet.

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But the wind from our windbite will corrode the rocks! /sarcasm