As much as I love and respect the devs of this game, they lack in the PvP department. Always have, and probably will continue to lack for a long time. I HIGHLY doubt there will be any system to help healers get kills in the new PvP system. At least upon release. When less and less healers que for PvP and more people complain about it then maybe they'll change it. A good system for healers getting credits for assisting kills should, in all honestly, already be in the game. I main heals in PvP. I'm pretty good. I don't care if there is some fancy reward for getting an achievement, I want the achievement regardless because it's a goal to strive towards.
I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it.
What is happening to healing in pvp?
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01-18-2015, 06:19 AMElim
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01-18-2015, 07:01 AMUltimatecaliburI can promise you that a team of 2 tanks 2 healers and 4 DpS will be able to flatten a group of 8 DpS, loosing fewer of their own at the same time so there is a bigger point difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaelu
The achievement rewards may work like the node/drones awards and accrue based on team rather than individual kills as long a the character is near enough.
There is a lot of chicken-littling happening about this new mode, and we do not and will not know how things will really work until a few matches have completed. -
01-18-2015, 07:51 AMMholito
It's worth keeping in mind that healers will still get the buffs from killing monsters as long as someone in their party gets the killing blow.
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01-18-2015, 08:33 AMYumi_umiNot until se announces assists that count towards ur bonus then i think its safe to say just being a heal bot when everyone around u becomes more and more op is kinda unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Logo
Also if 8 dps pounce on 1 healer, u know for a fact that after attunement is used that healer will explode.
2nd healer will try to raise but thats y u let them raise -> kill healer #2 cuz they just used swiftcast then go back to weakened healer = 3 kills. -
01-18-2015, 09:26 AMSunako
Healers are still really important
Keep everybody alive = enemy wont get buff
If opponent have no healers = your team will get easy kills and in that way huge buff -
01-18-2015, 02:57 PMYumi_umiSee that just boils down to the age old thing of healers have a hard life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunako
Healer dies = team dies. So everyone is like kill healer first.
Which then boils down to healers = the real tank of pvp.
also i doubt ppl will cluster up and do turtle formation to protect the healer lol. Just stack range and kite the ppl while attacking and zoning out healer so u can minimize their healing.
And if u see someone low just spam cds and kill them so u can get ur kill streak going thus making ur original goal of killing healers easier.
If you can't beat em come back after you've obtain decent "farm" and lay down the hurt lol -
01-18-2015, 03:30 PMRhynAzullo
I don't play a healer in PvP but I can definitely see how much they contribute. Had a Frontline match the other day where I got 9 kills and only a couple of deaths, and it's all because the amazing healers in the group were keeping us up.
I'm all for adding a tally for assists or something that would acknowledge healer contributions and make it more enjoyable and worthwhile for them to play. -
01-18-2015, 05:55 PMCidelMy thought exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur
I'm reading through the posts here and I'm hoping this really isn't mostly about the kill count achievements.
I'm seeing some extremely hypothetical scenarios being thrown around without anyone here actually trying the new mode. Two can play that game.
During attunement... All 8 DPS stand around/on that healer like ignorant tools? While the healer's teammates twiddle their thumbs? If all 8 DPS pounce a healer, BLM has the easiest Sleep to land. PLDs cover said healer. The 8 DPS are healer-less and die shortly after focusing on one healer. There are checks-and-balances for those situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yumi_umi
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2nd healer will try to raise but thats y u let them raise -> kill healer #2 cuz they just used swiftcast then go back to weakened healer = 3 kills.
Healer #2 pops attunement. By then at least 2, likely 3, possibly 4 of the healerless team is dead.
If people want to be the lifeblood of the team, they'll still bring healer; unless they're still pouting about kill-count achievements and not getting them by association. One thing all the tanks and DPS needs to remember in FL, the world doesn't revolve around them, and healer is a stressful and hectic role in FL. If a DPS dies because the healer had several enemies on them, don't be so quick to point the finger like I see happen so often in Secure mode. -
01-18-2015, 06:22 PMLogoWhy? you chose to heal, why would you be upset about healing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yumi_umi
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01-18-2015, 06:59 PMEdelineHealers don't wanna dps (at least most of them). It's a discussion with something concerning new PvP as healer, where points, bonuses, achievements and everything is based on kill count. While being a healer is already annoying because you can't cast anything, it gets worse when those who already made your life miserable as a healer could get even stronger while the healer stays the same. Giving healers a bonus doesn't need to be dps-wise, could be healing potency. Now we don't know how the kill counts will work, all we can do is wait to see in a few days, but if assisting won't give healers any bonus, kill count for achievement/bonus rewards or whatever there is, then healers will be extinct in the new PvP arenas, or like it is now, you barely see a couple of healers for the whole alliance in most frontlines. This plus many people going ninja to use hide and sneak kills/nukes, have fun in queues or pvp without healers (after the pvp hype for thw first two weeks after patch is live).Quote:
Originally Posted by Logo