Lower NM rank please to make drops more relevant!!!

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

You can take it down with a small party at r30. You haven't tried, yet you claim it as fact. People can take down Toto-Rak bosses at R25, and those stuff are harder than low lvl NM outside.

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...... I don't believe a party of r25 can take on a rnk 42 NM unless they've already reached level 50. And I never claimed it as fact. It have found plenty of research to back up what I've claimed. And a rank 42 NM is not low level

"OP is being too scared to even talk to other ppl for help nor may not have any LS/friends online... sad OP. "


I already said I'm new to the community, and my LS is all in rnk 20's. Geesh.

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Originally Posted by Dialegilus

...... I don't believe a party of r25 can take on a rnk 42 NM unless they've already reached level 50. And I never claimed it as fact. It have found plenty of research to back up what I've claimed. And a rank 42 NM is not low level

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It is low level, all the high level NM are 60 or 65+

Antares in Toto-Rak
http://ffxiv.yg.com/npc/antares?id=3201108

Shaula in Toto-Rak
http://ffxiv.yg.com/npc/shaula?id=3201110

And they have multiple adds come in 2-3 waves, they have a time restriction, and you can only have 4 people max to do it.

The NMs drop relevant gear. The extra levels are there to be a challenge for you. They're mini bosses so they're suppose to be difficult to a point. If you can't survive those due to the lvl gap then the dungeon bosses are going to be even more difficult for you. They have a 10-15 lvl gap to the lvl cap. Consider the NMs practice for the bigger things. Just find the right strategy. GL.

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Originally Posted by MariyaShidou

It is low level, all the high level NM are 60 or 65+

Antares in Toto-Rak
http://ffxiv.yg.com/npc/antares?id=3201108

Shaula in Toto-Rak
http://ffxiv.yg.com/npc/shaula?id=3201110

And they have multiple adds come in 2-3 waves, they have a time restriction, and you can only have 4 people max to do it.

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In that comparison, yup, you're right, but considering the lvl cap in 50, I wouldn't call it a low-level NM. Maybe the rnk 32-34 nms would be considered low-level.

that does sound cool though. Can't wait until I have my first high-lvl NM fight.

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Originally Posted by Dialegilus

yup....there isn't any valid reason why a rnk 42 NM is dropping rnk 30 gear. It should be a rnk 30ish NM where a party at similar level can take it on.

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You can kill a rank 42 NM with a party of rank 30 players easy. +12 dlvl is nothing a light party can't handle.

NM is pretty much tank-and-spank most of the time atm. Dungeon boss may not be higher level or hit harder, but they are trickier. You have to face add, you have to be watch the clock (NM has 30 mins limit, but in order to reach dungeon boss it may or may not take more than 30 mins out of 1 hour. R25-28 Party getting to Shaula the correct way without cheating through return may very much take 40-45 mins and that leaves you 15 mins left for the fight), in R45 Dungeon you have to watch the ghost, eye, shield/sword/eye terminal.

Also a lot of those gear drops are good up until 50. And some of those nm's are hard for 50's to solo

While I agree with what people are saying here, I'd like to throw in the hopes for lower level NM's. I remember the good ol' days of Jumping Jack and Leaping Lizzy (or w/e their names were). Low level NMs that could be easily killed solo just for the hell of it. Was a great way to provide good low level gear, sometimes gear that was good enough to be used for most of your career as that class/job.

I'd like to see more of that in the future. Would give lower levels something to do other than catching up with all the 50's around.

Not to be rude but does anyone even read what the dev/yoshi-p say?

The NM you see now are for Med range levels this is why you most be around 35+ to kill. I done pretty much all the NM with me and my gf"CONJ36 PUG36". So right now there is High/Med range NMs i'm sure they add cute little NM later for level 10+.

Too then just sit back and wait :)