Dark Knight Dilemma

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Originally Posted by BobbinT

On the contrary, the only job with weapon skill grade A+ for great sword are Rune Fencer, which is released on the latest expansion Adoulin, Such a shame GS became primary choice for DK, which might eliminate any possibility for having Rune Fencer job in XIV.

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Ok, one note on this. The Rune Fencer was based on the Mystic Knight job. It was a user of swords. It was mainly given GS in FFXI for one single reason: GS was the ONLY weapon type in game that didn't have a specific job that specialized in it. It could be used 3 jobs had weapons they had a higher mastery in. I would also say, regardless of what they may have intended for RUN, it sure wasn't a tank. Unless things have changed LOT since I quit. This is a job thrown in there just to fill a gap. And it did so poorly. Furthermore, what they did in XI, has no bearing whatsoever on XIV. I see really no reason to declare this a more suitable GS user than DRK. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by Baithin

If Rune Fencer or something similar is ever introduced in XIV, I think I'd prefer them having rapiers... You know, for fencing.

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I actually agree with you. Would be kewl if XIV version of rune fencer makes them into dps class since the use of rapier, and it would be deadly with their ability to infuse runes for oomph piercing damage. :D

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Originally Posted by Zophar

Ok, one note on this. The Rune Fencer was based on the Mystic Knight job. It was a user of swords. It was mainly given GS in FFXI for one single reason: GS was the ONLY weapon type in game that didn't have a specific job that specialized in it. It could be used 3 jobs had weapons they had a higher mastery in. I would also say, regardless of what they may have intended for RUN, it sure wasn't a tank. Unless things have changed LOT since I quit. This is a job thrown in there just to fill a gap. And it did so poorly. Furthermore, what they did in XI, has no bearing whatsoever on XIV. I see really no reason to declare this a more suitable GS user than DRK. Just saying.

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Btw, forgot to mention that XI's RUN also has the only highest parry skill rate.

But I guess I agree on the rest of what you said, although RUN are by no means weak or poor as you said. Their defensive rune abilities are what makes it better on tanking, similar like that XI WAR skill where you can parry and deflect damage. The aggro system however are weaker than the old tank job, but the recent patches already added some enmity boost on RUN skills, though I haven't tested this yet.

Parry doesn't amount for much on anything that matters, including pretty much all the SoA bosses. And I dunno. I seem to remember an Aegis pld still being far superior at magic damage mitigation and tanking in general

Theres always way too much comparison to and expectations of how jobs are XI...

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Originally Posted by Nheir

Sycthes

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http://www.grit.com/~/media/Images/G...cythe-cut1.jpg

scythes indeed.


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there is only ONE game where DRK aren't using swords. Don't let them become peasants

Swords are cooler than scythes, and they are also cooler than axes. I love swords, the most badass melee weapons.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

Unless we fight wheat-elementals in the future, Scythe is not a suitable weapon for combat.

As for the 22 jobs in FFXI, it's indeed pretty impressive...except the balance was absolutely destroyed early on, and each patch's purpose was to ruin previously overpowered jobs while boosting useless ones.

Especially when Katanas are far more different from swords than books are from...well, other books ;)

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Bah, sez I. Katana are just curvy razors with pretty sheaths. Their reputation is overblown. A dull bastard sword could equal their cutting power.

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Originally Posted by Galgarion

Bah,sez I. Katana are just curvy razors with pretty sheaths. Their reputation is overblown. A dull bastard sword could equal their cutting power.

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Looks like you don't know anything about metallurgy. Please do some research.

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Originally Posted by Hrist_Althea

Looks like you don't know anything about metallurgy. Please do some research.

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Why would I do that, when I could just watch youtube?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKvRHaJ2w6w

Starting at 0:35 "I think the Katana is a beautiful weapon, a fine weapon. But it's been exaggerated." Then to prove his point, at 0:55 he performs tameshigiri with a dull bastard sword.

I like DRK being greatswords and dark magic. I would've been unimpressed had SE made DRK a spin on PLD, which is what most people wanted. I'm happy with learning a new playstyle and I like tank jobs/classes. TBH I hope Samurai too is a tank job. This game needs more of those.

For what we've "heard" so far that this will be the first tank class based on premises of magic and TP vs just TP. My problem with this is how will this job fair with tanking things like King Moogle Mog who obliterates MP?

I understand there are not many enemies that do this at the current moment but this will potentially make DRK, not preferred on things of this nature, unless it has some type of immunity from drains, since it has a history of doing just that.